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Okay so I'm setting up a 40 gallon breeder with 2 glass panels in it to make 3 parts. It's for clownfish breeding. Well I'm not any thing live to it. All I'm going to add is water. Will I still need it to cycle or no??
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yes for sure, the bac needs established so that the waste from the clowns wont register as free ammonia, common ways of doing this:
get a filter from a current reef tank that's all old and use that...instant cycling as filter media can handle quite the bioload, if aged.
set up a whole new system using only empty tank, plastic or no décor, and some type of filtration media that will create much better surface area than without. you then use dr tims, and straight liquid ammonia to specifically cycle that setup per instructions. when you can add ammonia up to 3 ppm and then retest in 24 hours to get zero, that shows the new surface area is active and ready for fish breeding, at least as many can produce 3ppm safely.
each cycle request has a specific action, measure, and start/stop time so that no guessing is required.
get a filter from a current reef tank that's all old and use that...instant cycling as filter media can handle quite the bioload, if aged.
set up a whole new system using only empty tank, plastic or no décor, and some type of filtration media that will create much better surface area than without. you then use dr tims, and straight liquid ammonia to specifically cycle that setup per instructions. when you can add ammonia up to 3 ppm and then retest in 24 hours to get zero, that shows the new surface area is active and ready for fish breeding, at least as many can produce 3ppm safely.
each cycle request has a specific action, measure, and start/stop time so that no guessing is required.
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im not aware of how to get just a barren tank to process the waste from fish, that's not very much surface area. as soon as you add a hang on back filter with some siporax, or whatev, things begin to change due to massive surface area added.
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I'm going to have a sump with a skimmer and a sponge but that is it. I'm starting off with one pair so the bio load won't be to big. I wanna set it up next weekend and then put clowns in a week later. If I have sand or sock in there will there still be a cycle
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If you use items already from another established tank the bacteria may be able to keep up with 2 fish. Just watch the Amonia level.
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regarding the q about how to make a tank go from empty to cycled
I use no cycle on any reef ive ever put online, I opt out. they grow sps, lps in mini but its still exportable growth. nobodys advocating reef anarchy :) just that if you move over a bunch of live rocks already cured, nothing dies and you've just transferred a working biofilter see this thread
http://reef2reef.com/threads/new-ta...rimp-live-rock-no-shrimp.214618/#post-2475310
every aquarium that is on my youtube page, planted and reef, is skip cycled simply because its a biological option. If we were starting with totally dry substrates, its easy to get those ready in about two weeks using dr tims approach, demonstrated in hundreds of threads.
Id be more careful where fish are involved, I don't use em...careful in terms of strong digestion testing before adding their bioload, press it to a 5ppm digest just to be safe.
regarding the q about how to make a tank go from empty to cycled
I use no cycle on any reef ive ever put online, I opt out. they grow sps, lps in mini but its still exportable growth. nobodys advocating reef anarchy :) just that if you move over a bunch of live rocks already cured, nothing dies and you've just transferred a working biofilter see this thread
http://reef2reef.com/threads/new-ta...rimp-live-rock-no-shrimp.214618/#post-2475310
every aquarium that is on my youtube page, planted and reef, is skip cycled simply because its a biological option. If we were starting with totally dry substrates, its easy to get those ready in about two weeks using dr tims approach, demonstrated in hundreds of threads.
Id be more careful where fish are involved, I don't use em...careful in terms of strong digestion testing before adding their bioload, press it to a 5ppm digest just to be safe.
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