Dino or Cyano? Please help ID

[Fish Werx]

So, I hope this is the correct place for this? I have a bit of an outbreak in my system following my first round of algae treatment for bryopsis when my No3 and Po4 got pretty high for my system. This is what it looks like.

Parameters are:
Temp 79*f
Salinity .026
Ammonia 00
Calcium 390
Alk 7.0
No3 >.25ppm
Po4 .02
Mag 1350

Please let me know what you think it is so I know how to go about treating it..... I want to get rid of it before it becomes a nightmare!

 

[reeferfoxx]

Looks like cyano.

Clean up as much of it as possible. Testing nutrients might come up with false numbers since the cyano and hair algae is absorbing it. So try this.. Stir up the sand bed, remove cyano patches, let it filter out and perform a 15-25% water change. After the water change, wait about an hour and test your nutrients. Test no3 and po4. You want a reading of both. The right balance of no3 and po4 will eventually help eliminate the cyano. Target po4 of 0.01-0.04 and no3 of 2 -10. Again even after this balance it can take time to go away. Just be persistent in removing the cyano.

 

[Fish Werx]

Looks like cyano.

Clean up as much of it as possible. Testing nutrients might come up with false numbers since the cyano and hair algae is absorbing it. So try this.. Stir up the sand bed, remove cyano patches, let it filter out and perform a 15-25% water change. After the water change, wait about an hour and test your nutrients. Test no3 and po4. You want a reading of both. The right balance of no3 and po4 will eventually help eliminate the cyano. Target po4 of 0.01-0.04 and no3 of 2 -10. Again even after this balance it can take time to go away. Just be persistent in removing the cyano.

Right! I just performed a couple big water changes over the weekend, 20% both times. I vacuumed out 1/2 of the sand on both. Would that be considered stirring the sand?
Ive always had pretty low no3 in this system. Probably because of the algae issue, but honestly it has never gotten above .50 on the red sea test kit since I moved everything to this particular tank and sump set up....

 

[reeferfoxx]

Right! I just performed a couple big water changes over the weekend, 20% both times. I vacuumed out 1/2 of the sand on both. Would that be considered stirring the sand?
Ive always had pretty low no3 in this system. Probably because of the algae issue, but honestly it has never gotten above .50 on the red sea test kit since I moved everything to this particular tank and sump set up....

.50 is on the low end. I would look into slowly upping no3 to 2 and then 5 over a week. You can dose potassium nitrate, sodium nitrate, or seachems nitrate. Feeding the tank more meaty foods can up no3 but takes longer.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

So, I hope this is the correct place for this? I have a bit of an outbreak in my system following my first round of algae treatment for bryopsis when my No3 and Po4 got pretty high for my system. This is what it looks like.

Parameters are:
Temp 79*f
Salinity .026
Ammonia 00
Calcium 390
Alk 7.0
No3 >.25ppm
Po4 .02
Mag 1350

Please let me know what you think it is so I know how to go about treating it..... I want to get rid of it before it becomes a nightmare!

What treatment method or product.

 

[Fish Werx]

What treatment method or product.

Fluconazole treatment.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

Fluconazole treatment.

It's two things. The nutrints released by the rotting vegetation and the physical organics of the algae rotting in the sand.

I'm in treatment currently.
My nonsumped tank is getting some cyano. The sumped tank is getting it only in the sump as I'm pretty religious about blowing off the rocks and have good flow to get it to the sump.

I'd go with the usual ,it'll pass keep cleaning and consider adding bacteria like mb7 or probidio to help digest the leftover funk.

If it hangs on you can test to see if it's a cyano or spirulina and consider chemiclean.

Me I'm not going to do anything and I'm not concerned about nutrints save to not let them bottom out.

I get to do my first post treatment WC this week end.

 

[Fish Werx]

It's two things. The nutrints released by the rotting vegetation and the physical organics of the algae rotting in the sand.

I'm in treatment currently.
My nonsumped tank is getting some cyano. The sumped tank is getting it only in the sump as I'm pretty religious about blowing off the rocks and have good flow to get it to the sump.

I'd go with the usual ,it'll pass keep cleaning and consider adding bacteria like mb7 or probidio to help digest the leftover funk.

If it hangs on you can test to see if it's a cyano or spirulina and consider chemiclean.

Me I'm not going to do anything and I'm not concerned about nutrints save to not let them bottom out.

I get to do my first post treatment WC this week end.

So, you are voting cyano as well then?

 

[nervousmonkey]

cyano for sure

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

So, you are voting cyano as well then?

Yea.

 

[taricha]

It's both. Check the color shift in pic 3 from the pink to brown.

Suck up a bunch, shake the heck out of it, pour through a paper towel to filter. See if brown clumps reform in filtered water a few minutes later.

 

[reeferfoxx]

It's both. Check the color shift in pic 3 from the pink to brown.

Suck up a bunch, shake the heck out of it, pour through a paper towel to filter. See if brown clumps reform in filtered water a few minutes later.

Cyano can have a brown tint also. Dinos are rare and mostly likely not the case here.