My brother and I have been toying with this the past few weeks...
We're doing the Triton method. Aside from our little alk demand issue, at the 13 month mark, our corals are looking good and colors are outstanding (after dosing no3 and po4) -- everything's been going well with Triton so far, using Triton supplements, other branded supplements, and diy supplements.
We've been thinking about trace element dosing -- maintanence dosing only, not corrective dosing.
Our proposition is to use 1.5X the amount of the maintanence dose.
So far, the recommended practice is to recover your water to Triton calculated 'natural' setpoint seawater levels (we're still waiting the full story of where/how these setpoints came from, and also the promised locale-specific setpoints). At any rate, current practice uses a dosing multiplier of 1X.
1X Dose
At the current 1X dose, our water reaches a setpoint goal only at the moment of dosing,* and theoretically, trace element concentration begins to drop from the setpoint as soon as utilization begins. Therefore, if you dose maintanence doses weekly, like we do, at 1X dose, your system chemistry is 'correct' (at setpoint) only on day 1, and by day 7 you might be close to 0X setpoint. So our chemistry is only from 100% to 50% setpoint on days 1 through 3.5. On days 3.5 to 7, we are at 50% to 0% (maybe not zero, but let's just take that for ease of discussion). So looking at this from a grade school report card, at 1X dose, we have an F grade half the time.
There must be some crazy math description of this phenomenon like triton's razor lol. @ReefTeacher
1.5X Dose
At 1.5X dose, are we closer to the setpoint, for more of the days? Let's take our weekly dosing example. On day 1, we are over at 150% setpoint. On day 3.5, we are at 100%. On day 7, we are at 50%. Does our water chemistry receive a better grade? Still grade A on day 3.5, but almost never grade F. As the ocean has an 'infinite supply' of trace elements, we assume that maintaining elements above zero is preferential. But is overdosing to 150% setpoint bad? Toxic? Just for certain elements? Is biological utilization not linear? More is not better? Anyone use dosing heads for trace elements?
So... what are your thoughts on this proposed 1.5X 'trace element mutiplier'?
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@tenurepro, we'd like your thoughts, we like your youtube channel!
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@Tim2@Triton, we'd like more info on the setpoints and how they were developed. The only thing we know so far is setpoints are naturally based from unnamed reefs around the world, and then tweaked by Triton. What were the tweaks? Did Triton already build in a trace element multiplier?
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* Our system's maintanence dose of Zn is 26 ml (at Triton's addìtive concentration) per week. We always see our torch, hammer, and elegance corals extend more, look super happy, and 'pep up' on day 1 of the dose.
We're doing the Triton method. Aside from our little alk demand issue, at the 13 month mark, our corals are looking good and colors are outstanding (after dosing no3 and po4) -- everything's been going well with Triton so far, using Triton supplements, other branded supplements, and diy supplements.
We've been thinking about trace element dosing -- maintanence dosing only, not corrective dosing.
Our proposition is to use 1.5X the amount of the maintanence dose.
So far, the recommended practice is to recover your water to Triton calculated 'natural' setpoint seawater levels (we're still waiting the full story of where/how these setpoints came from, and also the promised locale-specific setpoints). At any rate, current practice uses a dosing multiplier of 1X.
1X Dose
At the current 1X dose, our water reaches a setpoint goal only at the moment of dosing,* and theoretically, trace element concentration begins to drop from the setpoint as soon as utilization begins. Therefore, if you dose maintanence doses weekly, like we do, at 1X dose, your system chemistry is 'correct' (at setpoint) only on day 1, and by day 7 you might be close to 0X setpoint. So our chemistry is only from 100% to 50% setpoint on days 1 through 3.5. On days 3.5 to 7, we are at 50% to 0% (maybe not zero, but let's just take that for ease of discussion). So looking at this from a grade school report card, at 1X dose, we have an F grade half the time.
There must be some crazy math description of this phenomenon like triton's razor lol. @ReefTeacher
1.5X Dose
At 1.5X dose, are we closer to the setpoint, for more of the days? Let's take our weekly dosing example. On day 1, we are over at 150% setpoint. On day 3.5, we are at 100%. On day 7, we are at 50%. Does our water chemistry receive a better grade? Still grade A on day 3.5, but almost never grade F. As the ocean has an 'infinite supply' of trace elements, we assume that maintaining elements above zero is preferential. But is overdosing to 150% setpoint bad? Toxic? Just for certain elements? Is biological utilization not linear? More is not better? Anyone use dosing heads for trace elements?
So... what are your thoughts on this proposed 1.5X 'trace element mutiplier'?
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@tenurepro, we'd like your thoughts, we like your youtube channel!
__________________
@Tim2@Triton, we'd like more info on the setpoints and how they were developed. The only thing we know so far is setpoints are naturally based from unnamed reefs around the world, and then tweaked by Triton. What were the tweaks? Did Triton already build in a trace element multiplier?
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* Our system's maintanence dose of Zn is 26 ml (at Triton's addìtive concentration) per week. We always see our torch, hammer, and elegance corals extend more, look super happy, and 'pep up' on day 1 of the dose.
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