Divorce rates in this hobby

On a side note, while in the majority of cases I’d be the first person to defend individual freedom and be supportive of people finding their own passion (reefing or not), I feel like what’s contributing to the destruction of so many marriages and families these days is the modern obsession with “self-actualization” and “finding yourself” that has reached cult-like levels. We’re pressured by society to always want more, to never feel content and to feel guilty for being content. This pressure comes from peers and wider society, and I feel it is reaching the point where being “normal” as in just wanting to get married and start a family is becoming the minority view that people are almost ashamed to admit that’s what they want because they might be met with attitudes like “but why?” or “but there’s so much more.”

Yes there is so much more but I believe that happy and stable families raise happy and well-adjusted kids, which in turn makes for healthy societies. Studies have proven that even when both couples are doing well, kids raised by happily married parents do better than kids raised in any other kind of arrangement including the “sambo” arrangement that’s taken the Scandinavian countries (and increasingly other Western European countries) by storm.

It’s a byproduct of this hyper-competitive, hyper-capitalistic world that so many of our natural desires are being unfulfilled. When everyone is made to “feel special” and duped into thinking they can and should “want it all”, that there’s always the “next best thing” and that if you’re not on a perpetual search for it then your life’s basically a failure. If anything it’s becoming looked down on to just be happy with what you have, and this consumerist attitude of compulsive “upgrading” has definitely carried over into marriage and relationships.

People are losing the ability to form genuine relationships due to modern society’s emphasis on positive psychology and the whole, absolutely disgusting idea of “selling yourself.” It’s degrading and turns yourself and others into commodities. Everything’s become about efficiency rather than what’s inside. The days where people took time to know each other, to form fewer but more lasting relationships, are coming to an end.

I consider myself an individualist at heart with a deep fear of groupthink and peer / group pressure, but I don’t think modern society is doing it right.
 
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My parents have been married 7 times between them. Both are selfish jerks and I have little to do with either. Its all about their current spouse and i got tired of keeping a spreadsheet of what stepparent is in favor. Only one of my siblings is married. The rest of us are too cautious and don't want to put our kids through that hell. If your parents are still alive and one or both are really cool please embrace it.

Not to reduce relationships and such to a simple dynamic, but I have an explanation. My grand parents and great parents stayed together for one reason, to raise a family. It was all about the kids and their differences didn't matter. They got over it. No choice.

Today is different. There's less glue and instinctive commital without kids being the focus of the relationship. Western society hasn't quite solved that dilema.
 
I am lucky to not have these problems either in my tank or my wife. I got my first tank in 1971 and when I upgraded to a larger tank, my Mother N Law bought it for me.

In this new house that tank was all scratched so my wife bought me a new one. She also bought me almost all my equipment (including my tools, and I could open a Home Depot with all my tools)

For Christmasses, birthdays etc, she always got me a fish or coral.
We would never tell each other we are spending to much on anything even when I started as an electrician in 1973 and was bringing home about $54.00 a week.

WE had a large fish tank and a tiny apartment. When we had our Daughter we had to wheel her around the tank to get in the bedroom as the thing took up much of our living space.

Now married for 47 years we are closer than ever and still never had even one argument or discussion of my tank.
I guess I picked a good wife. ;Happy

 
On a side note, while in the majority of cases I’d be the first person to defend individual freedom and be supportive of people finding their own passion (reefing or not), I feel like what’s contributing to the destruction of so many marriages and families these days is the modern obsession with “self-actualization” and “finding yourself” that has reached cult-like levels. We’re pressured by society to always want more, to never feel content and to feel guilty for being content. This pressure comes from peers and wider society, and I feel it is reaching the point where being “normal” as in just wanting to get married and start a family is becoming the minority view that people are almost ashamed to admit that’s what they want because they might be met with attitudes like “but why?” or “but there’s so much more.”

Yes there is so much more but I believe that happy and stable families raise happy and well-adjusted kids, which in turn makes for healthy societies. Studies have proven that even when both couples are doing well, kids raised by happily married parents do better than kids raised in any other kind of arrangement including the “sambo” arrangement that’s taken the Scandinavian countries (and increasingly other Western European countries) by storm.

It’s a byproduct of this hyper-competitive, hyper-capitalistic world that so many of our natural desires are being unfulfilled. When everyone is made to “feel special” and duped into thinking they can and should “want it all”, that there’s always the “next best thing” and that if you’re not on a perpetual search for it then your life’s basically a failure. If anything it’s becoming looked down on to just be happy with what you have, and this consumerist attitude of compulsive “upgrading” has definitely carried over into marriage and relationships.

People are losing the ability to form genuine relationships due to modern society’s emphasis on positive psychology and the whole, absolutely disgusting idea of “selling yourself.” It’s degrading and turns yourself and others into commodities. Everything’s become about efficiency rather than what’s inside. The days where people took time to know each other, to form fewer but more lasting relationships, are coming to an end.

I consider myself an individualist at heart with a deep fear of groupthink and peer / group pressure, but I don’t think modern society is doing it right.
you and me would get along very well, i agree with this statement 100%
 
My divorce had little to do with my hobbies (at the time a small tank and a couple dogs that I trained and hunted with) and more of me being a disaster of a person. I've not wanted to screw up another relationship so I have now been single quite a bit longer than I was ever married (I was with my daughter's mom for 9.5 years, married for 7.5).
 
Interesting thread. Now I'm thinking about an upgrade.
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I have been married for 19 years and owning a SW tank since 12 years ago. My wife took me to buy my first tank and supported me when I decided to go for an upgrade. I think hobbies can bring you together. Divorce is a tragic reality in our society and it has more to do more with ourselves than with our spouses.
 
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The only actual evidence I’ve seen of this hobby impacting someone’s relationship was someone that bought a 12 foot long aquarium on a whim.
 
Very lucky that my wife is as interested as me in reefing........ maybe not as much as me, but she still enjoys it. :p . 13 years
 

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