Dosing bleach

[56longroof]

You think it doesn't do what I suggested?

I'm 100% certain it does all of what I listed. Doesn't mean anyone should want to do it:

Some of these are toxic and can irritate tissue surfaces they encounter.

I totally believe it does what you posted. That was not the intention of my reply.

 

[Reefer Matt]

This is something that advanced Reefers may get away with for a while, and the rest might kill their tanks trying. Not something to be emulated, imo. Too much room for error and too little benefit to gain.

 

[Jimbo327]

So the benefit is no glass cleaning? .

 

[EricR]

If it really did all this we would all be doing it. I think @FishFan pretty much summed it up in his post.

I'd actually think we'd all NOT be doing it, based on bullet#s 2-4 in Randy's post# 19,,, unless I misinterpreted any of that.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I totally believe it does what you posted. That was not the intention of my reply.

Ok, I understand. :)

 

[BryanM]

I've heard some crazy things, but good grief.

 

[jackintheboxfish]

wow is there anything that cannot be dosed? Anyone try gasoline or mercury yet

 

[Reefer Matt]

wow is there anything that cannot be dosed? Anyone try gasoline or mercury yet

Only if it gets me out of water changes.

 

[EnterName]

wow is there anything that cannot be dosed? Anyone try gasoline or mercury yet

Gasoline would work as carbon dosing. In fact, it's a well documented phenomenon that bacteria can use compounds in gasoline as a carbon source:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960852409010566

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4148322/

https://www.enviro.wiki/index.php?title=Monitored_Natural_Attenuation_(MNA)_of_Fuels

However ethanol seems to be preferred (https://iea-amf.org/content/fuel_information/ethanol/production) and obviously you would need to work with very small amounts to not pass the toxicity threshold for aquatic life so I wouldn't recommend it

Potassium permanganate is another obscure chemical to increase ORP with. It adds too much manganese and is a really strong oxidizer, but it's mentioned as applicable method in Julian Sprung's Algae - A problem solver guide booklet. If you have low ORP, a pure KMnO4 source and low manganese it would work without issues though but the effect will probably be negligible before you overdose manganese.

 

[jackintheboxfish]

Gasoline would work as carbon dosing. In fact, it's a well documented phenomenon that bacteria can use compounds in gasoline as a carbon source:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960852409010566

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4148322/

https://www.enviro.wiki/index.php?title=Monitored_Natural_Attenuation_(MNA)_of_Fuels

However ethanol seems to be preferred (https://iea-amf.org/content/fuel_information/ethanol/production) and obviously you would need to work with very small amounts to not pass the toxicity threshold for aquatic life so I wouldn't recommend it

Potassium permanganate is another obscure chemical to increase ORP with. It adds too much manganese and is a really strong oxidizer, but it's mentioned as applicable method in Julian Sprung's Algae - A problem solver guide booklet. If you have low ORP, a pure KMnO4 source and low manganese it would work without issues though but the effect will probably be negligible before you overdose manganese.

learned something new today! Thanks @EnterName :)

 

[Fish Fan]

learned something new today! Thanks @EnterName :)

Please make sure that you're reading everything here thoroughly, and deciding for yourself.

This thread is much more of a theoretical discussion than a how-to, so please be careful when trying to implement anything you're reading about in this thread

 

[jackintheboxfish]

Please make sure that you're reading everything here thoroughly, and deciding for yourself.

This thread is much more of a theoretical discussion than a how-to, so please be careful when trying to implement anything you're reading about in this thread

Learning about these facts is super interesting to me. Prolly cuz I’m a nerd.

But yeah don’t think I’m going to dose bleach, gasoline, or KMnO4 into my tank any time soon if that’s what you are worried about :)