Dosing bleach

[56longroof]

You think it doesn't do what I suggested?

I'm 100% certain it does all of what I listed. Doesn't mean anyone should want to do it:

Some of these are toxic and can irritate tissue surfaces they encounter.

I totally believe it does what you posted. That was not the intention of my reply.

 

[Reefer Matt]

This is something that advanced Reefers may get away with for a while, and the rest might kill their tanks trying. Not something to be emulated, imo. Too much room for error and too little benefit to gain.

 

[Jimbo327]

So the benefit is no glass cleaning? .

 

[EricR]

If it really did all this we would all be doing it. I think @FishFan pretty much summed it up in his post.

I'd actually think we'd all NOT be doing it, based on bullet#s 2-4 in Randy's post# 19,,, unless I misinterpreted any of that.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I totally believe it does what you posted. That was not the intention of my reply.

Ok, I understand. :)

 

[BryanM]

I've heard some crazy things, but good grief.

 

[jackintheboxfish]

wow is there anything that cannot be dosed? Anyone try gasoline or mercury yet

 

[Reefer Matt]

wow is there anything that cannot be dosed? Anyone try gasoline or mercury yet

Only if it gets me out of water changes.

 

[EnterName]

wow is there anything that cannot be dosed? Anyone try gasoline or mercury yet

Gasoline would work as carbon dosing. In fact, it's a well documented phenomenon that bacteria can use compounds in gasoline as a carbon source:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960852409010566

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4148322/

https://www.enviro.wiki/index.php?title=Monitored_Natural_Attenuation_(MNA)_of_Fuels

However ethanol seems to be preferred (https://iea-amf.org/content/fuel_information/ethanol/production) and obviously you would need to work with very small amounts to not pass the toxicity threshold for aquatic life so I wouldn't recommend it

Potassium permanganate is another obscure chemical to increase ORP with. It adds too much manganese and is a really strong oxidizer, but it's mentioned as applicable method in Julian Sprung's Algae - A problem solver guide booklet. If you have low ORP, a pure KMnO4 source and low manganese it would work without issues though but the effect will probably be negligible before you overdose manganese.

 

[jackintheboxfish]

Gasoline would work as carbon dosing. In fact, it's a well documented phenomenon that bacteria can use compounds in gasoline as a carbon source:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960852409010566

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4148322/

https://www.enviro.wiki/index.php?title=Monitored_Natural_Attenuation_(MNA)_of_Fuels

However ethanol seems to be preferred (https://iea-amf.org/content/fuel_information/ethanol/production) and obviously you would need to work with very small amounts to not pass the toxicity threshold for aquatic life so I wouldn't recommend it

Potassium permanganate is another obscure chemical to increase ORP with. It adds too much manganese and is a really strong oxidizer, but it's mentioned as applicable method in Julian Sprung's Algae - A problem solver guide booklet. If you have low ORP, a pure KMnO4 source and low manganese it would work without issues though but the effect will probably be negligible before you overdose manganese.

learned something new today! Thanks @EnterName :)

 

[Fish Fan]

learned something new today! Thanks @EnterName :)

Please make sure that you're reading everything here thoroughly, and deciding for yourself.

This thread is much more of a theoretical discussion than a how-to, so please be careful when trying to implement anything you're reading about in this thread

 

[jackintheboxfish]

Please make sure that you're reading everything here thoroughly, and deciding for yourself.

This thread is much more of a theoretical discussion than a how-to, so please be careful when trying to implement anything you're reading about in this thread

Learning about these facts is super interesting to me. Prolly cuz I’m a nerd.

But yeah don’t think I’m going to dose bleach, gasoline, or KMnO4 into my tank any time soon if that’s what you are worried about :)

 

[mrmilky]

Hydrogen peroxide is perfect for reefs in small repeated doses it does a similar job to a uv sterilizer(look up the thread thats like 1200 pages long) it is great for ich management and some parasites. It also helps with diatoms and cyano aswell. But yeah look no the dose rates before trying yourself