Fish slime: An answer to antibiotic resistance?

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When @Paul B is asked about what is his proof concerning his “no quarantine” policy for fish, aside from a successful tank after 50 years, his counter is “Look at all the threads on disease forums”. So, when I found this peer reviewed article addressing natural immunity response of marine fish in Nature, I thought information is best shared.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324837
Researchers from Oregon State University in Corvallis and California State University in Fullerton led the most recent foray into unexplored reservoirs of bacteria, concentrating their attention on the protective slime, or mucus, that coats fish.
The researchers recently presented their findings at the American Chemical Society Spring 2019 National Meeting & Exposition.”


Why fish slime?​

This gloopy coating is of great use to fish because it traps and destroys pathogens in the environment, such as bacteria, fungi, and viruses. The slime contains novel polysaccharides and peptides, some of which have antibacterial activity.
One of the researchers, Molly Austin, explains that fish mucus is particularly interesting because fish are in constant contact with a complex environment that is dense with potential microbial enemies.
As the authors write, “fish cohabitate with a multitude of bacteria and viruses but often resist deadly infections.” It is worth finding out whether fish’s protective mechanisms might also protect humans.
The marine environment remains relatively unstudied, according to the principal investigator Sandra Loesgen, Ph.D., “For us, any microbe in the marine environment that could provide a new compound is worth exploring.”
Erin (Misty) Paig-Tran, Ph.D., who is from California State University, supplied the scientists with fish mucus from both bottom-dwelling and surface-dwelling fish off the coast of California.
The team chose to focus on younger fish because they tend to have thicker mucus layers. The extra mucus is necessary because their immune systems are relatively undeveloped, which means that they need additional protection.

Mucus versus MRSA​

In all, the researchers isolated 47 different strains of bacteria from the mucus. Of these, five were highly effective against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), and three were effective against Candida albicans, a fungus that is pathogenic to humans.
The slime that was from the skin of Pacific pink perch worked particularly well against MRSA, and interestingly, it also showed strong activity against colon carcinoma cells.
For future studies, Austin has chosen to hone in on one specific species of bacteria that the team found on the Pacific pink perch — Pseudomonas aeruginosa. According to Austin, P. aeruginosa produces antibiotics that could be useful in the future.
For example, these bacteria produce interesting phenazines, which are a well-studiedTrusted Source group of compounds that have “broad-spectrum antibiotic properties.” Several bacterial species produce phenazines.
Aside from the pressing issue of antibiotic resistance, the scientists have other ideas about potential uses for fish slime. For instance, they think that fish mucus could help reduce the number of antibiotics that fish farms use. They believe that it would be possible to achieve this by designing antibiotics to target the microbes that are present in the mucus of specific fish.
 
When @Paul B is asked about what is his proof concerning his “no quarantine” policy for fish, aside from a successful tank after 50 years, his counter is “Look at all the threads on disease forums”. So, when I found this peer reviewed article addressing natural immunity response of marine fish in Nature, I thought information is best shared.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324837
Researchers from Oregon State University in Corvallis and California State University in Fullerton led the most recent foray into unexplored reservoirs of bacteria, concentrating their attention on the protective slime, or mucus, that coats fish.
The researchers recently presented their findings at the American Chemical Society Spring 2019 National Meeting & Exposition.”


Why fish slime?​

This gloopy coating is of great use to fish because it traps and destroys pathogens in the environment, such as bacteria, fungi, and viruses. The slime contains novel polysaccharides and peptides, some of which have antibacterial activity.
One of the researchers, Molly Austin, explains that fish mucus is particularly interesting because fish are in constant contact with a complex environment that is dense with potential microbial enemies.
As the authors write, “fish cohabitate with a multitude of bacteria and viruses but often resist deadly infections.” It is worth finding out whether fish’s protective mechanisms might also protect humans.
The marine environment remains relatively unstudied, according to the principal investigator Sandra Loesgen, Ph.D., “For us, any microbe in the marine environment that could provide a new compound is worth exploring.”
Erin (Misty) Paig-Tran, Ph.D., who is from California State University, supplied the scientists with fish mucus from both bottom-dwelling and surface-dwelling fish off the coast of California.
The team chose to focus on younger fish because they tend to have thicker mucus layers. The extra mucus is necessary because their immune systems are relatively undeveloped, which means that they need additional protection.

Mucus versus MRSA​

In all, the researchers isolated 47 different strains of bacteria from the mucus. Of these, five were highly effective against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), and three were effective against Candida albicans, a fungus that is pathogenic to humans.
The slime that was from the skin of Pacific pink perch worked particularly well against MRSA, and interestingly, it also showed strong activity against colon carcinoma cells.
For future studies, Austin has chosen to hone in on one specific species of bacteria that the team found on the Pacific pink perch — Pseudomonas aeruginosa. According to Austin, P. aeruginosa produces antibiotics that could be useful in the future.
For example, these bacteria produce interesting phenazines, which are a well-studiedTrusted Source group of compounds that have “broad-spectrum antibiotic properties.” Several bacterial species produce phenazines.
Aside from the pressing issue of antibiotic resistance, the scientists have other ideas about potential uses for fish slime. For instance, they think that fish mucus could help reduce the number of antibiotics that fish farms use. They believe that it would be possible to achieve this by designing antibiotics to target the microbes that are present in the mucus of specific fish.
In essence it is a protective coating. Even coral such as sps and leathers have a protective mucus coating against sediment, waste and algae. Fish have it as a barrier to bacteria and viruses and often fluke worms and protozaon .
 
I have been talking about fish slime since they invented fish. Now, all of a sudden it's a thing. :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes:

It's something we very rarely, if ever hear about but it is the reason I don't have to quarantine and the reason many medicated or quarantined fish get sick. But, what do I know? :cool:
 
In earlier conversation with @Lasse, he said this on a post about the same topic:

“This has been known for a long time but we seldom think about it in this way. This is one of the reasons - IMO - why fish in newly started aquariums have a tendency to be susceptible to disease compared to older, more mature aquariums. In new aquarium the water is more "aggressive" against the mucus coat because the lack of biological molecules and colloidal organic particles in the water - IMO. A disease to me is the situation where a pathogenic microorganism is not controlled either internally or externally. The presence of a pathogen is a prerequisite for a disease, but its presence does not automatically mean that a disease will break out.”

AND, I couldn’t agree more!
 
I have been talking about fish slime since they invented fish. Now, all of a sudden it's a thing. :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes:

It's something we very rarely, if ever hear about but it is the reason I don't have to quarantine and the reason many medicated or quarantined fish get sick. But, what do I know? :cool:
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When @Paul B is asked about what is his proof concerning his “no quarantine” policy for fish, aside from a successful tank after 50 years, his counter is “Look at all the threads on disease forums”. So, when I found this peer reviewed article addressing natural immunity response of marine fish in Nature, I thought information is best shared.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324837
Researchers from Oregon State University in Corvallis and California State University in Fullerton led the most recent foray into unexplored reservoirs of bacteria, concentrating their attention on the protective slime, or mucus, that coats fish.
The researchers recently presented their findings at the American Chemical Society Spring 2019 National Meeting & Exposition.”


Why fish slime?​

This gloopy coating is of great use to fish because it traps and destroys pathogens in the environment, such as bacteria, fungi, and viruses. The slime contains novel polysaccharides and peptides, some of which have antibacterial activity.
One of the researchers, Molly Austin, explains that fish mucus is particularly interesting because fish are in constant contact with a complex environment that is dense with potential microbial enemies.
As the authors write, “fish cohabitate with a multitude of bacteria and viruses but often resist deadly infections.” It is worth finding out whether fish’s protective mechanisms might also protect humans.
The marine environment remains relatively unstudied, according to the principal investigator Sandra Loesgen, Ph.D., “For us, any microbe in the marine environment that could provide a new compound is worth exploring.”
Erin (Misty) Paig-Tran, Ph.D., who is from California State University, supplied the scientists with fish mucus from both bottom-dwelling and surface-dwelling fish off the coast of California.
The team chose to focus on younger fish because they tend to have thicker mucus layers. The extra mucus is necessary because their immune systems are relatively undeveloped, which means that they need additional protection.

Mucus versus MRSA​

In all, the researchers isolated 47 different strains of bacteria from the mucus. Of these, five were highly effective against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), and three were effective against Candida albicans, a fungus that is pathogenic to humans.
The slime that was from the skin of Pacific pink perch worked particularly well against MRSA, and interestingly, it also showed strong activity against colon carcinoma cells.
For future studies, Austin has chosen to hone in on one specific species of bacteria that the team found on the Pacific pink perch — Pseudomonas aeruginosa. According to Austin, P. aeruginosa produces antibiotics that could be useful in the future.
For example, these bacteria produce interesting phenazines, which are a well-studiedTrusted Source group of compounds that have “broad-spectrum antibiotic properties.” Several bacterial species produce phenazines.
Aside from the pressing issue of antibiotic resistance, the scientists have other ideas about potential uses for fish slime. For instance, they think that fish mucus could help reduce the number of antibiotics that fish farms use. They believe that it would be possible to achieve this by designing antibiotics to target the microbes that are present in the mucus of specific fish.

It's common knowledge that a disruption in a fish's mucus coating can allow pathogens easier access for infections. I had not heard that bacteria in the mucus can be protective against pathogenic bacteria - but in looking at various microbiomes, we know that competition between microbes can change the overall species in the microbiome, so I guess that would be the mechanism involved here.

I should add that this is the reason behind all of those "protective coatings" sold in pet stores - the "bandaid in a bottle" products. My concern with those is how can they be selective and not also coat a fish's gills?
 
The question then is. What are these medications being employed to fight parasites and diseases actually doing to the fishes natural defense slime coatings? Reducing them or their ability to ward off or nothing at all?
 

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