Flame Angel white spots

[sneakerhead]

For the past few days, the flame angel has been sleeping near some very narrow rocks and has been behaving differently.
I've noticed these patches as well which look somewhat greyish white, please refer to the attached pictures. Please let me know what you guys think

 

[MombasaLionfish]

Probably velvet or ich.

 

[MombasaLionfish]

Probably velvet or ich.

Take him out of the tank and treat with copper in a hospital tank.

 

[AcroNem]

Take him out of the tank and treat with copper in a hospital tank.

Careful with copper when treating Angels, dwarfs might tolerate it better but they're still sensitive.

 

[sneakerhead]

Careful with copper when treating Angels, dwarfs might tolerate it better but they're still sensitive.

What would you recommend?

 

[HotRocks]

That looks like Uronema or a bacterial infection to me. I would recommend moving to a QT and treating with the trifecta for 14 days. (Metroplex, Kanaplex, and Furan-2)

This will have both bacterial infections and Uronema covered.

 

[AcroNem]

What would you recommend?

I'd recommend the treatment that @HotRocks just mentioned, that doesn't look like Crypto or Velvet to me, I agree it's likely a bacterial infection or Uronema.

 

[sneakerhead]

What’s the best way to set up a qt fast? Any recommendations?

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

What’s the best way to set up a qt fast? Any recommendations?

Get a sterile tank(bare bottom),HOB filter (no media), heater, air stone, ammonia alert badge, and a bottle of biospira. Use a plain filter sponge and soak the biospira into it and place into the HOB or tank with biospira. Pour any remaining biospira into the tank.

 

[ccombs]

That looks like Uronema or a bacterial infection to me. I would recommend moving to a QT and treating with the trifecta for 14 days. (Metroplex, Kanaplex, and Furan-2)

This will have both bacterial infections and Uronema covered.

Would you mind educating me for a minute? I have dealt with Uronema and it always presented itself as darker spots, can it present itself in this manner as well?

 

[4FordFamily]

That looks like Uronema or a bacterial infection to me. I would recommend moving to a QT and treating with the trifecta for 14 days. (Metroplex, Kanaplex, and Furan-2)

This will have both bacterial infections and Uronema covered.

Agree but in addition I see ich spots on the face. I’d add copper to that mix.

 

[4FordFamily]

Would you mind educating me for a minute? I have dealt with Uronema and it always presented itself as darker spots, can it present itself in this manner as well?

Uronema isn’t spots, it usually presents itself on the side of the fish more like infections. It’s also an internal parasite so you’ll want to feed metroplex and focus (to bind it to the food) for 14 days just in case.

 

[ccombs]

Uronema isn’t spots, it usually presents itself on the side of the fish more like infections. It’s also an internal parasite so you’ll want to feed metroplex and focus (to bind it to the food) for 14 days just in case.

Sorry, I might have not been clear. I know that Uronema itself isn't the spots, I am just talking about how it presents itself. In my dealings and readings on it, Uronema always seems to present like this.

How did you deduce Uronema from the white/grey markings. I guess I am asking for your process of how you got to your conclusion.

 

[Big G]

Sorry, I might have not been clear. I know that Uronema itself isn't the spots, I am just talking about how it presents itself. In my dealings and readings on it, Uronema always seems to present like this.

How did you deduce Uronema from the white/grey markings. I guess I am asking for your process of how you got to your conclusion.

Uronema sometimes begins with a white to whiteish grey discoloration of those areas that eventually turn into those red sores that are often the too late to do much condition.

 

[ccombs]

Uronema sometimes begins with a white to whiteish grey discoloration of those areas that eventually turn into those red sores that are often the too late to do much condition.

Thanks! In my personal experience it moved so quickly I either did not have the spots or missed them.

 

[Big G]

Thanks! In my personal experience it moved so quickly I either did not have the spots or missed them.

You can really see this on Copperband Butterflies and some other larger angels. Might be the size or they are much slower moving so it's easier to see develop. Things you just don't want to see . . . :mad:

 

[sneakerhead]

Thanks everyone!
I got a 10g tank with hob filter.
I got the three medicines recommended and some bacteria(Fritz) for the tank.
Ended up spending $100 if not more on everything.
Ultimately all that matters is the fishes survival

 

[sneakerhead]

Missing air stone for now but besides that, I’ve dosed the trifecta. I just added filter floss in the hob.
How often should I feed? And should I still bind the food?

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Missing air stone for now but besides that, I’ve dosed the trifecta. I just added filter floss in the hob.
How often should I feed? And should I still bind the food?

I would still bind meds to the food for the cycle of your ABX’s.

 

[MombasaLionfish]

If you usually feed twice a day then I would still feed twice a day but I would not feed as much because your not feeding your hole tank.