I have a 90 gallon mixed reef tank and plan to add a foxface, which type is the best to buy as far as care and are they reef safe ?
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There’s 4 types of rabbits that get called the foxfaces:I have a 90 gallon mixed reef tank and plan to add a foxface, which type is the best to buy as far as care and are they reef safe ?
so its like a baby rattlesnake in your tank.... Been there done that.. dont want to do it again. Looking for an herbivore so that info helps!(DO NOT. threaten them, or touch their anal/dorsal spines unless you want to spend atleast a night in hospital)
Not really, most of the time unless they’re hungry they just go right to the opposite side of the tank to where your hand went. They’re for sure a good herbivore!so its like a baby rattlesnake in your tank.... Been there done that.. dont want to do it again. Looking for an herbivore so that info helps!
Nowhere near that serious.so its like a baby rattlesnake in your tank.... Been there done that.. dont want to do it again. Looking for an herbivore so that info helps!
For me, personally probably going to avoid it, but also dont want to scare others off. Rattlesnake was a killer (5 years ago) and haven't been stung by a bee in a long time but now that you bring it up.. was not a good reaction last time (20 years ago)More like a severe bee sting...not overly dangerous unless you are allergic to the venom.
I don’t think the venom from a bee sting is the same as from a foxface - I mean, I have never been stung by either of them and hope to never get stung haha, I would say they’re more like lionfish in being more of a shy and timid fish - Unless that lion isn’t a dwarf.For me, personally probably going to avoid it, but also dont want to scare others off. Rattlesnake was a killer (5 years ago) and haven't been stung by a bee in a long time but now that you bring it up.. was not a good reaction last time (20 years ago)
I always have 2 people watching the tank, one will always have an eye on the foxface (And if it happens, then we will ALWAYS have someone watching the sea goblin, if I get one). I knew it hurt but I think it’s worse than a bee sting if you’re allergic to their venomGot whacked by my rabbitfishs spines before daughter warned me. Worse than a mosquito bite, not as bad as a bee sting.
There’s 4 types of rabbits that get called the foxfaces:
- Siganus magnificus (I have this in a 4’x2’x2’ because of it having 5’ diagonal so if I really wanted I could keep him in that long term)
- Siganus vulpinus (This is one of the two that get mixed up for eachother because they look so similar)
- Siganus uspi (This is also a beauty and very unusual since most of the rabbits are predominantly yellow with very little black)
- Siganus unimaculatus (This is the one that can be mixed up for S. vulpinus)
Oh wow, that is a true beauty I might like that more than I like the bicolor fox.One more. S. niger.
I’m pretty set on what foxface I would love to mix with a magnificus, if I ever get the chance to see one for sale I would probably take it unless I had an established foxface alreadyOh wow, that is a true beauty I might like that more than I like the bicolor fox.
From what I have read about it, it’s on the smaller side of foxfaces (9” max size). And also has the same care as the other 4 foxfaces
Siganus niger is a beauty, indeed! They seem to be quite rare and expensive, though.I’m pretty set on what foxface I would love to mix with a magnificus, if I ever get the chance to see one for sale I would probably take it unless I had an established foxface already
Yeah, S. uspi and S. niger are very similar just price is very different. I would say my favourite is between S. niger, S. uspi and S. magnificus, mainly because all three are different to the more common rabbitfish that are dominated with yellow.Siganus niger is a beauty, indeed! They seem to be quite rare and expensive, though.
My personal favorite is still easily S. uspi, though, which is why I have 3 in my quarantine tank right now while I build my 125-gallon reef. I am hoping to have a pair in the 125 with the third one in my basement 90-gallon FOWLR.
Hopefully S. uspi does not outgrow my 90-FOWLR, but I know it is a possibility.
The cases I've read about for foxfaces outgrowing a 90-gallon are for the ones that actually reach near-maximum size (8-9 inches length). It is all relative to what people consider a happy and not-stressed fish. A full-size foxface could survive and do pretty well in a 90-gallon but may seem cramped or be somewhat stressed. It is a decision for the individual to make, but I've read recommendations on nearly all sites and reference books that all foxfaces other than S. unimaculatus should be in a minimum tank size of 125 gallons. S. unimaculatus minimum is 75-gallons. These limits do assume full size as an adult, so a smaller foxface of any species could work in a smaller tank. Obviously, a fish that is not full-grown can be kept in a tank smaller than the minimum recommendation, although I personally would rather apply the minimum no matter what the actual fish size is and try to avoid the need to rehome due to the fish outgrowing my tank.Yeah, S. uspi and S. niger are very similar just price is very different. I would say my favourite is between S. niger, S. uspi and S. magnificus, mainly because all three are different to the more common rabbitfish that are dominated with yellow.
I don’t think S. uspi would outgrow a 90g FOWLR, there would be enough swim room (I have my S. magnificus which is similar in max size in a 90g Reef and hes at 5”, still not stressing or anything. I doubt any foxface would be okay in a 75g but I think 90g would be okay for almost all of them (Except the 10”+ ones)