G&B Reefing Nano, Notes and Thoughts

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It has been an educational 2 years, funny how thoughts and views on this hobby change over time. Things i thought i figured out were just luck or coincidence when looking back. For example 8 months ago i thought i had my routine figured out with good algae management and stable nutrients, but struggled to keep sps alive. Today i am fighting algae/dinos with nutrients stabilizing on the low side, but my sps is taking off and my lps are thriving.

The following “book” is my current husbandry practices. I am documenting this so i can look back 6 months from now to see how my routine and approach changed. For those that read it, i am sorry, this will be boring! Feel free to throw rocks but please know i will not react/change course quickly based on any comments (i am learning that every change is slow and intentional in this hobby!).

Date: 2/8

Tank: 26 gal RS max nano
Lights: RS50 LED (72%B 28%W) + AI Blade Grow (90%B 40%W)
Temp: 75F
Other: Run a skimmer 24/7 with GAC.
Flow: 2 power heads + return pump

Maintenance Routine:
Morning:
Carbon: 1 ml NoPOx
Bacteria: 1.5 ml MB7
Alk: 2 ml RedSea
Phyto: 10 ml
Food: brine shrimp frozen 1/4 cube

Midday:
Food: Flakes

Night:
Food: brine shrimp frozen 1/4 cube
Phyto: 10 ml
Bacteria: 1.5 ml MB7

Other Feeding:
2-3 times a week i target feed lps corals either brine shrimp (1-2x) or reef roids (1x)

Water Changes: Sundays, 4 gal (15%)

Parameter Targets:
Alk: 8 dkh
Cal: 430 ppm
Mag: 1280 ppm
NO3: 1-2 ppm
PO4: .05 ppm
Salinity: 35 ppt

Testing:
Tuesday: Alk/NO3/PO4
Thursday: Alk/NO3/PO4
Saturday: Alk/Cal/NO3/PO4. This is the only time I dose calcium and trace elements (all red sea dosing, trace elem dosed based on simple calcium add per instructions)

Tank Parameter 2/8:
Running below my target NO3 and PO3 values. Values are non zero but below targets. Although i desire higher values they have been stable near these levels for a few weeks.
NO3: 0.25 ppm
PO3: 0.03 ppm

Other test parameters:
Alk: 7.8 dkh
Cal: 1400 ppm
Mg: 1200 plm (not usually tested, will repeat on clean water to confirm test accuracy)
Salinity: 35 ppt

I have not dosed nitrate or phosphate previously as the test values were stable and i was waiting to see if they would creep up on their own. Today i dosed neonitro to get an additional 0.25 ppm. Going to watch what this does over the next week or so. Going slow, i dont want GHA to go out of control.

Dino &Algae Battle:
My tank is almost 2 yrs old and i have been in a dino resurgence battle for 6 weeks now. I changed my phyto source in october (LFS sourcing issues). Changed to reef nutrition live (which i suspect now was not live) and my NO3 and PO4 spiked (12ppm and 0.15ppm respectively). GHA took off on the rocks. I cut out the reef nutrition phyto as that was the cause of the elevated nutrients. I went without phyto dosing for ~1 month (sourcing issues with desired LFS + deer season + holidays = i didnt have any). In that month dinos showed up on the sand. My thought is that the phyto was a primary organism in my tank and when i stopped dosing phyto it gave the dinos an opening. During the month with no phyto i did some water changes to bring nutrients down to slow the algae. Also added additional clean up crew members to try and stay on top of it.

Current status, I think i am turning the corner on the algae. It’s still there but my daily routine has it “controlled”. The dinos are a different story. They cover the sand daily. I blow them around twice a day. Try to keep them guessing? I have not used a microscope to confirm but they disappear from the sand at night so i am 51% sure they are dinos. Although my nutrients are on the low side of target they are still measurable. And the corals look great in spite of the algae and dinos, great sps color, monti setosa is growing fast, other sps frags are growing with good PE, lps look the best ive ever seen (lots of new heads and very puffed up with great colors), gsp and toadstool are huge. Also, i am cleaning the glass and changing filter socks every 2 days. Skimmer cup is emptied every 3-4 days, skimmer is active which is to be expected as i am dosing phyto and bacteria. I added MB7 to the daily routine to try and out compete the dinos (was a recommendation on other reef2reef forums for dealing with dinos). The thought is to add other organisms that can/will take the place of the dinos, time will tell if this will work. I have gone back to my original phyto source which i believe has created stability in my nutrient levels.

I have a uv, green killing machine, but i suspect it needs a new bulb. It didnt seem to help, have had it out of the tank for 2 weeks and haven’t noticed things being worse. TBD if i get a replacement.

Other observations:
Alk consumption has been increasing. The 2 ml per day dose (0.2 dkh) likely needs to be upped to 2.5 ml per day in the near future as i started doing a supplemental 2-3 ml throughout the week to keep it on target. Calcium is corrected on the weekends and tends to be a 10ml dose (20ppm) every 2 weeks. I dose trace elements with calcium per the RS instructions. Calcium dosing is increasing and aligns/corresponds with the alk observations, i interpret this as the sps are growing (which visually i can confirm). I typically let water changes handle Mg and dont test for it. Tested Mg today and it was 1200ppm which is lower than i wanted. Will run a few more tests for repeatability but may need to start testing that one once a month. Already added 30ppm mg (nice middle area if the test was incorrect it wont make anything mad if it wasnt needed. I have a history with red sea Mg tests being wildly inaccurate, always good to test some new mix water to confirm accuracy)

Bonus thoughts:
Been doing some reading this weekend and ive learned that what my daily routine most resembles is a diy nano tank zeovit method (no reactor but implementing similar carbon dose/bacteria/nutrient approach). I did not intentionally go for this, was doing some reading and adopted a few strategies to try and deal with the dinos and algae. My biggest take away is it probably doesnt matter on the approach as long as it’s consistent with any changes being done slowly. My inconsistency between October through December last yr is whats gotten me into the trouble i have today. The phyto issues, nutrient swing ip then down, then seeing the dinos take root over the holidays where i had a reef sitter for a few weeks (cant take action if you’re not there…). The zeovit stuff makes a lot of claims, not sure if i buy it all but am intrigued by the bacteria feeding the coral statements (bacteria providing PO4 transport to the coral) as my coral are looking very happy since implementing this new routine. Maybe thats actually happening in my system, likely luck and coincidence…
 

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A few notes... Food wise. Feed mysis instead of brine and maybe one or two other varieties.
MB7... Meh... probably not the best choice, but it is a popular one.
Stop dosing NoPox if your nutrients are low
Your RS50 light is not the best for SPS, your grow is probably doing all the heavy lifting. Maybe I should qualify that statement a little better. Given enough par RS lights can grow SPS, The coral itself just feels bland. A 32HD along with the another blade would be great for that tank.
But you are doing great documenting every thing you do. also don't for get to take some reference pics.
 
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The above method is supporting the following:

Fish:
Coral beauty angle (tank boss, leaves corals alone)
Two clowns
Red scooter blenny
Fire fish

Inverts:
Fire shrimp
Red and blue hermits - ~10x
Astrea snails - 8x
Trocus snails - 9x
Turbo snails - 2x
Nassarius snails - 3x large, 2 dozen babies
Bumble bee snails - 10x
Tuxedo urchin - 1x
Copepods - light but increasing

Coral:
sps frags: monti setosa, green slimer, 3x from fhc (copper flame, who knows, bushmaster), random mille, random frag
softies: gsp plague, neon toadstool, mushroom(s)
Lps: 4x acan varieties, 2x hammers

Known pests:
Vermitid snails - light
Asterina starfish - few
Bristle worms - light? at least 1 big one but he stays hidden very well so we coexist.
Other: there are a bunch of other things that i wouldnt call pests that add to the diversity of the system.

Tank pics:
Morning before the dinos take over the sand
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Firefish!
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Dinos on the sand mid day:
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Bunch of blue light pics with orange filter because i think it looks neat! Lights transition to blues for last 1.5hrs of the day.
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Monti setosa
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Green slimer and unknown frag
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Acans and mushrooms
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Fhc Who knows
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Unknown mille
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Fhc bushmaster
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Copperflame and monti setosa
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Green slimer
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Today’s Parameters
N03: 0.5ppm
P04: 0.03ppm
Alk: 8.0 dkh (after daily alk dose)
Ca: 410 ppm

Daily Dosing Maintenance:
Alk: +0.25 dkh per day
NoPOx: 1ml per day

Single day dosing correction:
Ca: +20ppm today
RS Trace Elem: 1ml of each today
Neonitro: +0.25 ppm today after testing

Feeding: maintaining routine, MB7 + phyto, brine and flakes.

Water change: 4 gal (15%) water change tomorrow. Will dose nitrate to match tank levels

Other: My wife made a comment this week that got me thinking. In the fall and winter the tank sees some direct sunlight which also corresponds with all the issues ive been having with dinos and algae. To test the theory i am blocking the direct light. Been going on a few days, too soon to know if this will help. Also, cleaned out the storage cabinet, removed salt buildup on the power strips.
 
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Todays parameters:
NO3: 0.25ppm
PO4: 0.01ppm
Alk: 7.8 dkh
Ca: 410ppm

Daily doses:
RS Alk: +0.25dkh
NoPox: 1ml
MB7: 1.5ml morning
Genesis Bacteria: 1 drop at night

Weekend adjustment/dosing:
Ca: +20ppm
RS Trace colors: 1ml of each
NeoNitro: +0.5ppm
NeoPhos: +0.01ppm

I recently got a second bacteria blend to have something to augment the MB7. Picked up the polyplab genesis bacteria.

Algae seems to have leveled off. Not gone but is manageable. Thinking i should get a few more tubo snails.

Dinos are another story. I think ambient light is a big part. The sunniest days seem to have the thickest coverage. Thinking about getting the UV back out.
 
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Today’s Parameters:
N03: 0.5ppm
PO4: 0.02ppm
Alk: 8.1 dkh
Ca: 400ppm

Daily Doses:
Alk: +0.25 dkh
NoPox: 1ml
MB7: 1.5 ml morning and night, sub out the genisis bacteria drop once every other day.
Phyto: 5ml morning and night

Weekly update:
Ca: +30 ppm
Trace: +1.5ml of each

I did two algae scrubs this week, a rock rearrange, and moved a power head. Also, got replacement bulbs for the uv and have been running that. Tank is looking much better. Algae appears to be under control. Dinos ebb and flow, right now they appear to be receding. Also, did standard 15% water change this past week as well.

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The tank looks really nice. When I use NeoNitro and Microbactor7 I see a notable reduction in slime algae. I don't know if it's Dino but I do know my N/P values are extremely low.
 
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The tank looks really nice. When I use NeoNitro and Microbactor7 I see a notable reduction in slime algae. I don't know if it's Dino but I do know my N/P values are extremely low.
thanks! I feel like i have been trying everything to get over the algae and dino hurdle here and it may be starting to payoff.
 

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