Two m40's is not going to be that kind of system.....even at 100% all the time, not using any of the "fun modes" they will be soft and barely adequate.
It's good to buy and try! :)
Like I said, flow from two 40's will be about similar to one 6150 (check out the 150G video....very close to your tank's size and shape....check out some other vids too.)
But the price for two 40's is more.......a single 6150 is only $345 at full retail. Either way you're talking about a minimal flow installation that's going to need an upgrade if you decide to get more into corals. (Which is what you described as your need.)
Looking at what you'll spend on three mp40's vs a pair of 6105's or even 6150's makes the cost difference more clear.
Not sure what makes you say that's odd. I'm guessing you don't work in retail though since talking about wholesale prices in the first place is sorta verboten. ;)
Did I miss a detail, or are you getting a wholesale hookup, talking about it in front of a huge crowd of people who can't get that same hookup, and then talking about turning around and selling to that crowd used for what you paid for them (or more) brand new?
Yes....but not inexpensive.
This is not really true. (And not a reason you stated initially as being important....which is OK.) ;)
As someone else mentioned, the 6105 has always come with a wide flow nozzle (which is perfect for your tank) as well as an extra-wide flow nozzle that's a lot like the wide flow you get from any other pump on the market including korellia and vortech, etc but still not being a limited design. If wide flow was the top priority, then the 6150 would be a much better bet than the vortech.....5 year warranty and the tank-like build quality are only the first two reasons I'd mention.
But again, buying and trying is where it's at – you (and your corals) can decide for yourself! :) :) :)
If you can swing the budget, get a set of Tunze in the tank alongside the current pumps for A/B comparison.
The gyres I bought myself because they were 20% off, plus I had a $25 rewards certificate from MD. I don't bother my brother to buy every single item for me, especially an item I'm not sure about keeping and may return. I don't return things I ask him to get for me or items that are on sale or inexpensive. Clear? Good then ;Happy.
And as far as selling the gyres to anyone here, it was a more tongue-in-cheek comment because I said everyone is gonna have me spending $1,200 on powerheads. Thought that was a given o_O
Anyway, I was talking about selling them
brand new at 20% off, not used. Someone may want the opportunity to buy them at 20% off if I decide to return them. You can't return them used, also a given. Figured I'd give someone a chance to save around $100 on them first rather than paying full price before I return them because maybe they didn't have the money to spend during the 2 day sale. I wouldn't sell them for more than I paid here and I'd also lose the $25 in rewards. I know if I was looking for a pair of those and someone was selling them brand new in the box for 20% off, I'd be all over it.
I kind of assumed, being I was comparing gyres and MP40's, that a wider flow pattern was the objective. Maybe I should've been more clear. ;Dead
I've never, ever, used a Tunze product. Which is my hesitation ;Stop. I didn't know they even had wider flow nozzles until you just mentioned it. All I read on them is that the 6105 is a jet stream and a big, bulky pump.
I also said I may throw in a Pulsing Xenia for nutrient export, not adding corals ;). Plus they don't like being blasted anyway. But I don't even consider a Xenia as "getting into corals." It's more of a cool macro algae to me to perform a function.
And no, I don't work in retail, obviously. But I thought when a manufacturer drops the msrp, it trickles down to the consumer. And maybe wholesale prices shouldn't be forbidden on a consumer forum. People should know if they're getting ripped off on items. When a mark-up on something is over 200%, that's a ripoff imo. Definitely not the case with the items discussed here though. But I can understand sponsor wise why that could be an issue. My bad :cool:.
I have experience with a gyre, but the cleaning sucks. Great flow, but a pain. My brother uses two MP40's on his AI SR-120 tank, which is also 6 feet long, 24 inches wide, and doesn't even have them at 100% in a heavily populated sps tank with tons of frags and colonies. So I've seen them in action.
Does the Tunze 6105, with the wide flow pattern nozzle reach farther than the MP40? Maybe I'll return the gyres and ask him to get me those as well and compare those 2 models. And if they work better than the Ecotech's, I'll be the first to admit it.
