Hammer dying?

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I got a hammer about a month ago and my clowns decided it was their new home. It was really inflated when I first added it but after the clowns and moving it, it has shrunk a lot should I move it again? seems the hammer next to it is doing way better. Do I just let it get used to the new spot btw it’s lower light then it was before
Hammer now:
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Hammer before:
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Parameters:
Salinity:1.025 Milwaukee
Cal :430( Red Sea)
Alk:8.1(Red Sea)
Mag:1375 AquaForest)
Phos .20(Hannah)
Nitrate:18.5 (Hannah) IMG_0868.jpeg
 

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I seem to find polyp extension can vary quite al lot, the main thing to check is that the flesh on the skeleton isn’t receding, it was probably just initially extended because it was adjusting, mine did the same when i first got it
 
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I seem to find polyp extension can vary quite al lot, the main thing to check is that the flesh on the skeleton isn’t receding, it was probably just initially extended because it was adjusting, mine did the same when i first got it
I think the flesh has receded a little can you tell by first pic
 

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I think the flesh has receded a little can you tell by first pic
I would call that severely receded. Flesh is almost to the top of the outside of the skeleton and was covering to below the split prior. Could be because of the fish but it doesn't look all that bothered in the picture with them, so I suspect there are other factors going on.

Moving it yet again is probably not going to help because it will just add more stress from changes. This is just a guess though because light lower than before tells me very little. I have no idea what the light was previously and how much lower it is, so no idea what the par is currently. Hammers generally don't need a ton of light to survive but can take quite a bit if acclimated. Tissue recession if parameters are decent is usually a light/nutrition issue though. Combined with the fish hosting could be just compounding things for the new coral.

Picture of the skeleton of the other hammer?
 
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I would call that severely receded. Flesh is almost to the top of the outside of the skeleton and was covering to below the split prior. Could be because of the fish but it doesn't look all that bothered in the picture with them, so I suspect there are other factors going on.

Moving it yet again is probably not going to help because it will just add more stress from changes. This is just a guess though because light lower than before tells me very little. I have no idea what the light was previously and how much lower it is, so no idea what the par is currently. Hammers generally don't need a ton of light to survive but can take quite a bit if acclimated. Tissue recession if parameters are decent is usually a light/nutrition issue though. Combined with the fish hosting could be just compounding things for the new coral.

Picture of the skeleton of the other hammer?
Par was about 100-130 before probably 60 now
I will take pic of the other skeleton tomorrow it looks a lot better
 
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Tissue recession if parameters are decent is usually a light/nutrition issue though. Combined with the fish hosting could be just compounding things for the new coral.
So would you say feed it more?
Thanks for your reply.
 

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Thanks for the photo. Not a lot of flesh there and looks to have lost a fair amount recently based on the large white area on the skeleton. Euphyllia will do this often. Look really good while slowly losing tissue until they hit a turning point seemingly overnight and they no longer look good :(
 

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Clowns hosting may affect the photosynthetic process and over time, could lead the corals demise.

I’d move it onto the sand temporarily to see if they follow it.

Or add a BTA if that’s on your list.

Or add the BTA on the hammers spot and move the hammer at the same time.
 
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Dang, anything else I can do to help it? Was super excited to finally get some Euphyllia in there but I guess not?
 

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Well I'm not sure it's really gotten much worse. Still a little flesh around the top which is about where it was in the previous picture. What's the par? You mentioned 60? I hope you bumped it back up to at least 100-120.

You can pop it off the rock and glue it elsewhere if needed. The cyanoacrylate glue should snap off if you pry with something under the edge of the base tile.

What are your parameters looking like now? Have you tried feeding it?
 
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Well I'm not sure it's really gotten much worse. Still a little flesh around the top which is about where it was in the previous picture. What's the par? You mentioned 60? I hope you bumped it back up to at least 100-120.

You can pop it off the rock and glue it elsewhere if needed. The cyanoacrylate glue should snap off if you pry with something under the edge of the base tile.

What are your parameters looking like now? Have you tried feeding it?
Will test later today shouldn’t have changed too much it’s still at low par I might try to break it off again. I’ve tried feeding it beepers coral food
 

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