Help! Blue Dot Decline

[PocketReef.1]

Hey there everyone! I’ve posted clips on TikTok (same name:Pocket.Reef) but hoping to get some help. Not sure what’s going on with my blue dot but he’s pretty beat up and seems to have gotten attacked? But like by what. Hes two times bigger than anything in the tank. Not sure what to do for this coming week as im heading out of town. Seems close to death. I actually just covered his cave some more so it’s safer and that seems to help but can’t tell if it will be sustained

 

[Jekyl]

We'll get you some help. Please post white light photos and a 20-30 second youtube clip. Please make sure to turn off any blue lights that are on. Also read through this post.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/s...sease-treatment-and-diagnosis-section.775547/

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hey there everyone! I’ve posted clips on TikTok (same name:Pocket.Reef) but hoping to get some help. Not sure what’s going on with my blue dot but he’s pretty beat up and seems to have gotten attacked? But like by what. Hes two times bigger than anything in the tank. Not sure what to do for this coming week as im heading out of town. Seems close to death. I actually just covered his cave some more so it’s safer and that seems to help but can’t tell if it will be sustained

I assume blue dot stingray.
First thing to check is nitrates as well as salnity drop and belly for any unusual marks.
How is tank filtered and how are you testing water?
Can you post a video of specimen under white lighting and 30 seconds in length?

 

[PocketReef.1]

We'll get you some help. Please post white light photos and a 20-30 second youtube clip. Please make sure to turn off any blue lights that are on. Also read through this post.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/s...sease-treatment-and-diagnosis-section.775547/

Here you go!

I’ll get the white too

 

[PocketReef.1]

Tons of people on TikTok think it’s temp but idk. The range seems okay and wouldn’t do this overnight

 

[Fish Fan]

Tons of people on TikTok think it’s temp but idk. The range seems okay and wouldn’t do this overnight

My friend, ditch the TikTok You've got two of R2R's best replying here, I would follow their advice for sure.

Good luck!

 

[JumboShrimp]

TikTok is SchmickSchmok, compared to R2R️

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Here you go!

I’ll get the white too

Welcome to Reef2Reef.

While this species doesn't always do well at higher temperatures, there is something else going on here. It is either physical damage from other fish (possibly the dottyback I saw in the video) or it has a protozoan infection that has gotten severe enough to cause cloudy skin, rapid breathing and damaged fins.

to be honest - these are delicate fish, and I don't think you'll be able to save this one. If you want to try, the first step is to set it up in an isolation tank with a broad spectrum, gram negative antibiotic.

 

[PocketReef.1]

Tons of people on TikTok think it’s temp but idk. The range seems okay and wouldn’t do this overnight

My friend, ditch the TikTok You've got two of R2R's best replying here, I would follow their advice for sure.

Good luck!

That’s what I’m noticing! You guys are the best!

 

[PocketReef.1]

Here you go!

I’ll get the white too

Welcome to Reef2Reef.

While this species doesn't always do well at higher temperatures, there is something else going on here. It is either physical damage from other fish (possibly the dottyback I saw in the video) or it has a protozoan infection that has gotten severe enough to cause cloudy skin, rapid breathing and damaged fins.

to be honest - these are delicate fish, and I don't think you'll be able to save this one. If you want to try, the first step is to set it up in an isolation tank with a broad spectrum, gram negative antibiotic.

That’s what I’m been saying!!! It’s not a temp thing. The physical definitely came once he was infected but actually from the candy hog. If I do not have an isolation tank, what do you suggest?

 

[PocketReef.1]

TikTok is SchmickSchmok, compared to R2R️

Everyone on there is just telling me that I killed the fish because of lack of research and temp…..

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

It is very difficult to set up a hospital tank “on the fly”. You could use a 10 gallon tank with some seeded sand and rock from an established tank.

 

[DCR]

Don't know if he was the cause of the jawfish issues, but that neon dottyback is going to severely limit the types of fish you can keep in that tank. They are one of the most aggressive fish you can find and only suited for tanks with much larger fish IME.

 

[PocketReef.1]

It is very difficult to set up a hospital tank “on the fly”. You could use a 10 gallon tank with some seeded sand and rock from an established tank.

I’m going to try a 5 gallon today and hope. At least if it doesn’t work, then he won’t affect my current system

 

[PocketReef.1]

Don't know if he was the cause of the jawfish issues, but that neon dottyback is going to severely limit the types of fish you can keep in that tank. They are one of the most aggressive fish you can find and only suited for tanks with much larger fish IME.

Shoot really? I know they are aggressive but he’s been chill since putting him in. It was actually the candy hog that went for the bites. Should I consider removing him before getting other fish?

 

[DCR]

Shoot really? I know they are aggressive but he’s been chill since putting him in. It was actually the candy hog that went for the bites. Should I consider removing him before getting other fish?

I have heard of a few people on this site having success with them being peaceful, but I think I have tried three of them and all ended up banished to my sump. I personally would only consider them for tanks with larger angelfish (including larger dwarf angelfish), tangs, hawkfish and predatory fish if you keep them. Smaller wrasses, basslets, blennies and gobies are likely to be attacked. You can wait and see how it goes but I would be wary.

 

[PocketReef.1]

Shoot really? I know they are aggressive but he’s been chill since putting him in. It was actually the candy hog that went for the bites. Should I consider removing him before getting other fish?

I have heard of a few people on this site having success with them being peaceful, but I think I have tried three of them and all ended up banished to my sump. I personally would only consider them for tanks with larger angelfish (including larger dwarf angelfish), tangs, hawkfish and predatory fish if you keep them. Smaller wrasses, basslets, blennies and gobies are likely to be attacked. You can wait and see how it goes but I would be wary.

You’re so right. Judd realized it’s the neon that’s killed two clowns, two mandarin goby’s, and now the jawfish. Are you concerned about the puffer?

 

[PocketReef.1]

Update for everyone. The blue spot is dead……

 

[DCR]

You’re so right. Judd realized it’s the neon that’s killed two clowns, two mandarin goby’s, and now the jawfish. Are you concerned about the puffer?

Sorry about your blue dot. No experience with puffers but I would think they would be OK with the dotty. I would still look to rehome the neon dotty as I think you will enjoy the hobby more with more peaceful fish.

 

[PocketReef.1]

You’re so right. Judd realized it’s the neon that’s killed two clowns, two mandarin goby’s, and now the jawfish. Are you concerned about the puffer?

Sorry about your blue dot. No experience with puffers but I would think they would be OK with the dotty. I would still look to rehome the neon dotty as I think you will enjoy the hobby more with more peaceful fish.

Yeah if you know anyone who would like to buy him haha. I’m trying to get him out asap before he kills my valentini puffer. He already killed my two clowns