Help! First time dealing with ich/velvet/brooklynella!

[Jay Hemdal]

How effective is this medication?

That is a peroxide salt. It is also a bit hit or miss, but peroxides do have a mention in the scientific literature for treating protozoans.
Jay

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Well I've already ordered ruby reef and will be starting treatment for it tomorrow. Can I use formalin along with ruby reef? What brand of formalin?

Formalin is so restricted now, you likely won’t find it. Trouble is, that’s what I have the most experience with for Brook.
Jay

 

[1Meshy]

Formalin is so restricted now, you likely won’t find it. Trouble is, that’s what I have the most experience with for Brook.
Jay

Question for anyone to answer:

I've been looking more into fish treatment for parasites and some people recommended to use Ruby Rally for 3 days and then treat QT with paraguard and metroplex for the remaining time in QT.

Is this a good idea? If it is then I'll order the meds tonight so they arrive Monday.

I was looking for formalin last night actually and I came across this. Is this what you've been talking about?

Also, do you mind answering my question about paraguard and metroplex?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I was looking for formalin last night actually and I came across this. Is this what you've been talking about?

Also, do you mind answering my question about paraguard and metroplex?

Yes - that product is the same as used in fish medications (<15% methanol). There are two ways to dose it; 25 ppm daily as a static bath for five days (with partial water changes before each dose if needed) or daily formalin dips at 150-167 ppm for 45 minutes with good aeration.

Jay

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I was looking for formalin last night actually and I came across this. Is this what you've been talking about?

Also, do you mind answering my question about paraguard and metroplex?

I don't think Metronidazole is very effective against Brook. Paraguard *should* effective, it is an aldehyde and malachite green, but I've not used it myself for this issue.

Jay

 

[1Meshy]

I don't think Metronidazole is very effective against Brook. Paraguard *should* effective, it is an aldehyde and malachite green, but I've not used it myself for this issue.

Jay

Hmm, maybe itd be worth a shot then.

Also, in this post that humblefish did for brook, he mentioned using metroplex for the parasite. Could I use both metroplex and paraguard in this case (or just metroplex)?

Brooklynella

Brooklynella hostilis (updated 6-9-2023) What You Need To Know: * This is most often seen with clownfish, but it can afflict other fish (usually in the gills) as well. When a clownfish has Brook, the skin will appear to be peeling or sloughing off. Which is actually excess white mucous coming...

humble.fish

Or should I just simply stick to using ruby reef rally for the whole QT process?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Hmm, maybe itd be worth a shot then.

Also, in this post that humblefish did for brook, he mentioned using metroplex for the parasite. Could I use both metroplex and paraguard in this case (or just metroplex)?

Brooklynella

Brooklynella hostilis (updated 6-9-2023) What You Need To Know: * This is most often seen with clownfish, but it can afflict other fish (usually in the gills) as well. When a clownfish has Brook, the skin will appear to be peeling or sloughing off. Which is actually excess white mucous coming...

humble.fish

Or should I just simply stick to using ruby reef rally for the whole QT process?

I’m not a fan of ruby reef especially after their formulation change. Metro doesn’t work well for me either. Do you have access to chloroquine?
Jay

 

[1Meshy]

I’m not a fan of ruby reef especially after their formulation change. Metro doesn’t work well for me either. Do you have access to chloroquine?
Jay

I don't have any on hand but I could look for some. What brands do you recommend?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I did a quick look....if you are in the US, you probably won't be able to find chloroquine. I should caution you that you need to get some treatment started ASAP. Due to the lag time on the forum, I'm afraid you will lose fish while we are talking about what meds to use.....

Jay

 

[1Meshy]

I did a quick look....if you are in the US, you probably won't be able to find chloroquine. I should caution you that you need to get some treatment started ASAP. Due to the lag time on the forum, I'm afraid you will lose fish while we are talking about what meds to use.....

Jay

I'm trying my best to do things as quickly as I can, but I've been running into some problems.

1. I did set up my quarantine tank, but the tank suddenly started to leak and I lost all 10 gallons of water.. I had to make a new batch last night. I got a new tank and will be doing it again today.

2. I've been able to catch the two clownfish in the DT, but the anthias and YWG are very difficult to catch. I can't tear down the rocks because they're full of coral and sponges. So far I've been using a soda bottle trap for them. Any other ideas on catching them?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I'm trying my best to do things as quickly as I can, but I've been running into some problems.

1. I did set up my quarantine tank, but the tank suddenly started to leak and I lost all 10 gallons of water.. I had to make a new batch last night. I got a new tank and will be doing it again today.

2. I've been able to catch the two clownfish in the DT, but the anthias and YWG are very difficult to catch. I can't tear down the rocks because they're full of coral and sponges. So far I've been using a soda bottle trap for them. Any other ideas on catching them?

Did you ever do a FW dip on the clowns? That would buy you some time. If you got the ruby reef, I would dose that now - it won’t hurt and might help.
Jay

 

[1Meshy]

Did you ever do a FW dip on the clowns? That would buy you some time. If you got the ruby reef, I would dose that now - it won’t hurt and might help.
Jay

I'm doing the FW dip as we speak. Should I dose the ruby reef to the DT, or should I just make a bath for the fish?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I'm doing the FW dip as we speak. Should I dose the ruby reef to the DT, or should I just make a bath for the fish?

That’s a toss up really. If you could dip and move to a clean tank, that would be best. Otherwise, I guess I’d be inclined to dose the tank.
Jay

 

[1Meshy]

That’s a toss up really. If you could dip and move to a clean tank, that would be best. Otherwise, I guess I’d be inclined to dose the tank.
Jay

Did a FW dip today on clowns. They seem to be okay so far.

I'm going to take out my rocks tomorrow and get out the last remaining fish. I'll then dip them in ruby reef and put them in the clean QT.

Hopefully moving the rocks isn't a huge hassle :/

 

[b0bburg3r]

Formalin is so restricted now, you likely won’t find it. Trouble is, that’s what I have the most experience with for Brook.
Jay

Formaldehyde 37% High Purity...

A link from humble fish. I hope this is the right stuff.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Formaldehyde 37% High Purity...

A link from humble fish. I hope this is the right stuff.

Yes, I've seen that Amazon listing, that will work. However, the cost is crazy high! You can get a full gallon for just a few dollars more:

37% Formaldehyde, Laboratory Grade, 3.8L

Formaldehyde Formula: CH2O F.W.: 30.03 CAS No.: 50-00-0 Notes: 37% aqueous solution; possible carcinogen; contains 10% methanol as inhibitor Storage Code: Redflammable Laboratory Grade - Intermediate purity. Suitable for educational laboratories. Use for qualitative analysis, not quantit...

www.carolina.com

The trouble is, it needs to ship via ground and they will not ship to private individuals.


Jay