Help identifying disease / parasite?

[Euphyllia-Thomas]

Hello. About 2 weeks ago my Mimic Filefish suddenly stopped eating. Initially I could see no obvious reason for this, however a few days later I noticed it was developing some kind of open sore just behind its gill on one side. This actually has started to healing on its own and the mimic filefish has slowly started eating again over the last few days and seems to be recovering, but today I've noticed the same thing has happened to my Y-bar goby, but much more severely. He has developed similar wounds behind the gill, though in his case its on both sides, and he also has two on his underside next to his pelvic fins which you can just about see in the photo. He is also breathing very heavily and seems very restless.
I've been trying to find an ID but with no luck.

The best match I've been able to find is uronema, and the heavy breathing is noted as a common symptom of this, however all pictures I've seen of uronema seem to show sores that cover a much larger area of skin but are shallower and usually very red in colour, whereas these sores are fairly small but quite deep so I'm not quite sure. Any help will be much appreciated.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hello. About 2 weeks ago my Mimic Filefish suddenly stopped eating. Initially I could see no obvious reason for this, however a few days later I noticed it was developing some kind of open sore just behind its gill on one side. This actually has started to healing on its own and the mimic filefish has slowly started eating again over the last few days and seems to be recovering, but today I've noticed the same thing has happened to my Y-bar goby, but much more severely. He has developed similar wounds behind the gill, though in his case its on both sides, and he also has two on his underside next to his pelvic fins which you can just about see in the photo. He is also breathing very heavily and seems very restless.
I've been trying to find an ID but with no luck.

The best match I've been able to find is uronema, and the heavy breathing is noted as a common symptom of this, however all pictures I've seen of uronema seem to show sores that cover a much larger area of skin but are shallower and usually very red in colour, whereas these sores are fairly small but quite deep so I'm not quite sure. Any help will be much appreciated.

This looks to be an injury and based on appearance will require treatment in a separate tank using seachem neoplex with air stone added

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Hello. About 2 weeks ago my Mimic Filefish suddenly stopped eating. Initially I could see no obvious reason for this, however a few days later I noticed it was developing some kind of open sore just behind its gill on one side. This actually has started to healing on its own and the mimic filefish has slowly started eating again over the last few days and seems to be recovering, but today I've noticed the same thing has happened to my Y-bar goby, but much more severely. He has developed similar wounds behind the gill, though in his case its on both sides, and he also has two on his underside next to his pelvic fins which you can just about see in the photo. He is also breathing very heavily and seems very restless.
I've been trying to find an ID but with no luck.

The best match I've been able to find is uronema, and the heavy breathing is noted as a common symptom of this, however all pictures I've seen of uronema seem to show sores that cover a much larger area of skin but are shallower and usually very red in colour, whereas these sores are fairly small but quite deep so I'm not quite sure. Any help will be much appreciated.

I’ve never seen Uronema in a goby or a filefish, the goby looks to have a bacterial lesion that they are prone to.

 

[Euphyllia-Thomas]

This looks to be an injury and based on appearance will require treatment in a separate tank using seachem neoplex with air stone added

I don't know how he would have injured himself so severely and create 4 deep, separate and quite symmetrical wounds. Especially so shortly after the file had a similar would in the same place, just behind the gills. Seems like too much of a coincidence for me.

Unfortunately the goby has since passed away. My focus now is trying to stop wherever it is spreading

 

[Euphyllia-Thomas]

I’ve never seen Uronema in a goby or a filefish, the goby looks to have a bacterial lesion that the are prone to.

Whatever it is is a very quick killer. He died shortly after making this post.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I don't know how he would have injured himself so severely and create 4 deep, separate and quite symmetrical wounds. Especially so shortly after the file had a similar would in the same place, just behind the gills. Seems like too much of a coincidence for me.

Unfortunately the goby has since passed away. My focus now is trying to stop wherever it is spreading

Sorry to hear and often they spook easy and dart into rocks and crevices and get injured

 

[Euphyllia-Thomas]

Sorry to hear and often they spook easy and dart into rocks and crevices and get injured

Would such injuries be enough to kill though? So quickly?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Would such injuries be enough to kill though? So quickly?

At times yes unless its been scratching itself due to flukes

 

[Jay Hemdal]

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Whatever it is is a very quick killer. He died shortly after making this post.

I think this is the ulcerative bacterial disease this group of fish is known for getting. The bacteria that causes this is found in most aquariums, and usually isn’t contagious to other fish. The filefish may have had a different issue.

 

[Euphyllia-Thomas]

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I think this is the ulcerative bacterial disease this group of fish is known for getting. The bacteria that causes this is found in most aquariums, and usually isn’t contagious to other fish. The filefish may have had a different issue.

I really hope this is the case. It's certainly possible that it's just a coincidence they both had similar issues so close together.

 

[Euphyllia-Thomas]

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I think this is the ulcerative bacterial disease this group of fish is known for getting. The bacteria that causes this is found in most aquariums, and usually isn’t contagious to other fish. The filefish may have had a different issue.

After googling cases of ulcerative bacterial diseases in cryptocentrus, I see there are indeed a lot of cases of this, and it does look very similar what mine had.

I was not aware of them being prone to these infections. I have kept a few different Watchman species over the years and fortunately had never encountered this before.