Help pls...

[dhekerpp]

I don't know what I'm doing wrong, everything seems to be ok but my corals don't think that way!![emoji17]

These torch coral was great, now I don't know what else i could do

the green start is getting algae and little bit of cyanobacteria, the flow looks pretty good, but what I know [emoji20]

Thanks for any help..

 

[Chrisfish]

What are your water parameters? How old is your tank? IMO it looks like your torch is getting a little to much flow? I'll call in the #reef squad for you as well.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

Well that's a bummer. And makes it a bit of a rough Welcome to Reef2Reef.
Can you list your parameters No3 Po4 ALk calcium etc.
Are you using Rodi water?
What is your Lighting?
A full tank shot may also help.

 

[dhekerpp]

Yeah a great welcome.... thanks for all help!!
Is the second time that I start, the first time was last year I have running for about 9 month everything was going great and crash everything died... I moved and start over, this time whit a 3 stage Rodi.

My tank is a 180 gal, 42 in current Led lights, 3 powerhead, refugium....

Temperature: 75°f
Salinity: 0.26 (instant ocean)/ refractometer
Ph: 8.2
Ammonia : 0.25
Nitrate:0(I used denitrate)
Nitrite:0
Calcium: 480
KH: 17.9
Phosphate: 0.25

 

[tomtom2245]

I hope that is a typo on the KH! Did you mean 7.9 or is it actually 17.9?

 

[tankstudy]

You should compare your refractometer versus a digital one. The instant ocean refractometer says its +/- 0.001 but from my experience it can be as much as +/- 0.003. I carry one for back up and its + 0.002. Once you get it checked, we can rule out salinity.

 

[dhekerpp]

I use API test °dkh 1 / 17.9 ppm KH.

 

[Rick.45cal]

You should have somewhere around 7.5 dKH or 134 ppm for your KH

 

[Rick.45cal]

That 0 for NO3 (nitrate) is probably why things don't look happy. I'm not familiar with deNitrate but you may have stripped your water too clean of NO3 which is why everything looks really sad. Corals need some NO3 and some PO4 to survive, prolonged undetectable nutrients aren't a recipe for success for a new aquarist.

 

[dhekerpp]

Thanks for your help!!

 

[hybridazn]

That 0 for NO3 (nitrate) is probably why things don't look happy. I'm not familiar with deNitrate but you may have stripped your water too clean of NO3 which is why everything looks really sad. Corals need some NO3 and some PO4 to survive, prolonged undetectable nutrients aren't a recipe for success for a new aquarist.

This is possible, but I'm going to guess that it's a lack of proper lighting. Those current led lights aren't designed to keep corals alive and happy.

 

[Rick.45cal]

Yep, gotta have appropriate lighting too!

 

[dhekerpp]

Well about the lighting LED!! Thay are confusing is no much information about and everyone on Internet/forums... says something different about them.
I have Current Ramp Timer Pro and i was planning on get the new current loop, soo are good or not? What do you think guys?

I have those set from 8 am to 8pm at 80%

 

[Rick.45cal]

I'm not terribly LED savvy. I've got very limited experience with them. It might be good to post a question in the LED specific lighting forum asking those folks. You will likely get more eyes from people who can help. @saltyfilmfolks is very good with LED lighting it's worth asking him here as well!

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

My concern is about the ammoina too. Thats big. Yea it could be too much too fast in the water treatment. That's an od reaction.

Def turn the light worn to the 50 or60% and give the corals a lil rest.
The new version has some lenses and can be pretty punchy depending on the depth of the tank. How deep is it?


And yea 17dhk really needs checking again thats hurtful crazy bad. Are you using a cal or alk supplement of ph buffer?

This is possible, but I'm going to guess that it's a lack of proper lighting. Those current led lights aren't designed to keep corals alive and happy.

 

[dhekerpp]

My filter system is very basic, pad, carbon, denitrate, ceramic rings, bio balls, (skimmer I don't run it all the time) and live sand.

Did you think I sure take the denitrate out?

The LED lights is a pain bc everyone says something different!!

 

[Rick.45cal]

My filter system is very basic, pad, carbon, denitrate, ceramic rings, bio balls, (skimmer I don't run it all the time) and live sand.

Did you think I sure take the denitrate out?

The LED lights is a pain bc everyone says something different!!

I would remove the de-Nitrate until nitrates start to become a problem. Then I would add it back in very small measured quantities until the tank stabilized with 2-5ppm of NO3 (wherever everything seems the happiest).

The LED thing, yeah... I get that, that's why I ditched my Kessil AP700's in favor of an ATI powermodule, where I get lots of light from the t5's and I can tweak the cycle/with the integrated LED's. Plus in their computer program, I can tell each LED cluster which one of ATI's T5 bulbs I want it to emulate. :) Too me, it is the best of both worlds, user friendly, and it's proven to grow corals.

I'm not telling you to ditch what you have, but there is a learning curve to LED's and i personally would rather spend my time messing with other stuff than worrying if my spectrum of my lighting is right. I also had a bad experience with the Kessil AP700's and their user interface. So the user friendly actual working program was of paramount importance. That being said, everything comes with a price.

Lighting is likely going to be one of the biggest expenses in the hobby, you really do get what you pay for. You also have to weigh what interests you in this hobby. Some people love having the newest greatest light. I just want something that does what I tell it to do, turns on when it is supposed to, turns off when it is supposed to, grows corals like weeds, and looks pleasing to my eye. If it can do a simulated morning/dusk with moonlight then that's just icing on the cake.

I don't know if any of that is helpful, lighting is tricky and has lots of personal preferences attached too it. Don't be afraid to ask people what they are using on their tanks when they post pictures, most people love to talk about their tanks and lighting! ;)

 

[dhekerpp]

Yeah!! this lighting have a lot of features.... Thanks for all the help.

 

[dhekerpp]

My concern is about the ammoina too. Thats big. Yea it could be too much too fast in the water treatment. That's an od reaction.

Def turn the light worn to the 50 or60% and give the corals a lil rest.
The new version has some lenses and can be pretty punchy depending on the depth of the tank. How deep is it?


And yea 17dhk really needs checking again thats hurtful crazy bad. Are you using a cal or alk supplement of ph buffer?

This is what I use

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

This is what I use

I would definitely get a second opinion on your test results. Calcium and alkalinity should always in general be raised together evenly.
You may need to do some large water changes to get the water back to normal parameters. I would not dose until the levels come back to normal.