How to distinguish information from misinformation?

With so much information all over the place these days, how can anyone in the hobby be able to determine the difference between good information and misinformation?
How do folks filter through it?
Do folks just choose the information that falls in line with their beliefs and experience or is better to follow the information given by popular names in the hobby?

I’ve seen it so many times. I’ve seen what I believe to be good advice being ignored and I’ve seen what I believe to be parroted information being passed around as an absolute true.
this makes me really curious in learning how do you do it.
Information overload for sure.
Person comes here for advice. Person gets 10 people to respond. Then they try 10 different things creating more issues. Happens every day on this site.
Best advice is to find a reefer who has a build thread and a tank you like. Follow what they do to get it right. This gives you an understanding of how a system functions.

I cant tell you how many threads I have responded to where the OP is trying this and that from recommendations but does not have a basic understanding of reef keeping.
 
Information overload for sure.
Person comes here for advice. Person gets 10 people to respond. Then they try 10 different things creating more issues. Happens every day on this site.
Best advice is to find a reefer who has a build thread and a tank you like. Follow what they do to get it right. This gives you an understanding of how a system functions.

I cant tell you how many threads I have responded to where the OP is trying this and that from recommendations but does not have a basic understanding of reef keeping.
I’ve seen the exact same thing many times unfortunately.
 
If somebody is giving advice and doesn't have a build thread with a very successful tank, I disregard anything they have to say. Proof has to be in the pudding
Well said! A thread from day one to current will tell all.
 
If somebody is giving advice and doesn't have a build thread with a very successful tank, I disregard anything they have to say. Proof has to be in the pudding

This is a valid check. Unfortunately there are members here, staff included, that have not had tanks for years and years yet their advise is not questioned.

Proof is not always a visible display.
 
This is a valid check. Unfortunately there are members here, staff included, that have not had tanks for years and years yet their advise is not questioned.

Proof is not always a visible display.
Are you referring to @Randy Holmes-Farley by any chance? I find he’s advice always spot on!
 
Are you referring to @Randy Holmes-Farley by any chance? I find he’s advice always spot on!

That is one, yes although they recently setup a tank. My point is that while I understand the reason behind the comment there are hobbyist that may have retired from it, real life priorities, stage in life, or just not as vocal on social media picture reels.
 
That is one, yes although they recently setup a tank. My point is that while I understand the reason behind the comment there are hobbyist that may have retired from it, real life priorities, stage in life, or just not as vocal on social media picture reels.

I don’t think folks loose the knowledge they’ve build up over the years just because they closed their tank.
At the end of the day experience is still experience.
 
I don’t think folks loose the knowledge they’ve build up over the years just because they closed their tank.
At the end of the day experience is still experience.

I did not say, or imply that. I was replying to the post saying if there is no build thread or tank they ignore it and move on...
 
That is one, yes although they recently setup a tank. My point is that while I understand the reason behind the comment there are hobbyist that may have retired from it, real life priorities, stage in life, or just not as vocal on social media picture reels.
There are lots of old school folks that have tons of threads on reefcentral but don’t have any here. If I recognize the username, I make an exception
 
If somebody is giving advice and doesn't have a build thread with a very successful tank, I disregard anything they have to say. Proof has to be in the pudding
Maybe, however a single tank with success might have a significant amount of luck. For example, if I go back to the 90’s I had some decent reef aquariums. I never QT my fish and thought it was a waste of time. Might even have “bragged” about not QT on Reef Central? Fast forward to 2011 and my 300+ gallon display with both ich and flukes. It was a terrible year and I learned a hard lesson about how important it is to QT.

Here is my tank from ~2000, no qt fish and that would have been my advice, however now I believe it is the wrong advice.
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If somebody is giving advice and doesn't have a build thread with a very successful tank, I disregard anything they have to say. Proof has to be in the pudding
This is not a bad approach, but it shouldn’t be the only approach or the dominant approach. An aquarists with a successful aquarium (whatever that is) can be quite capable passing on BS or misinformation. The pudding would taste good even when it’s contaminated with E. coli.
 
Best advice is to find a reefer who has a build thread and a tank you like. Follow what they do to get it right. This gives you an understanding of how a system functions.
But does it?

Outcomes and understanding are two very different things.

This thread is about misinformation, not outcomes. People often conflate the two and say, “Well, there are many ways to do something,” as an excuse to avoid calling misinformation what it is. Or they simply cannot identify it as misinformation themselves. That is much of the problem here.

“I do an 80% water change after a cycle, and I wait for nitrate to be zero before adding fish because nitrate is toxic to marine fish. It always works for me because I have never lost a fish.”

That conflates an outcome with the factual information being passed along. Nitrate is not toxic at any reasonable or attainable level to marine fish. The water change may or may not be beneficial for other reasons, but the explanation being propagated is misinformation. It doesn't matter that the advice is not likely harmful, the damage is promoting that water changes must be done to reduce nitrate after a cycle to prevent nitrate toxicity. It is nonsense passed along here daily.

Things like this are part of the reason new reef keepers are mired in nonsense before they ever put a drop of water in their first tank:

You must dump in bottles of bacteria to cycle.
You must keep dumping in bottles of stuff to have “biodiversity.”
You must buy a PAR meter.
You must do ICP tests at least once a month.
You must dose trace elements.
You must dose N and P and maintain Redfield ratios.
You must get DNA testing done.
Don’t forget your amino acid supplements.
Don't forget all of the magic potions.

Every one of those topics, and the resulting “must-have” logic, is dominated by passed on misinformation conflated with outcomes.


If somebody is giving advice and doesn't have a build thread with a very successful tank, I disregard anything they have to say. Proof has to be in the pudding
I think that can be a tool, but here are countless reliable sources that do not have “build threads.” A nice tank may show that someone can keep a nice tank. It does not automatically make their explanations correct, nor does the absence of a build thread make someone’s information wrong.

Me: I don't pay much attention to people's tank photos or use the photo rank that person on a reefing knowledge scale. Some people have a knack for things without really every understanding much about them, others get lucky, and some have vast expertise and have a bad run.

in any case, I think the thread is straying from the topic:
This thread is about misinformation, not outcomes.

Claude from FM is a prime example. He maintains beautiful tanks. He has a tremendous following of people who repeat anything he says as reefing fact because he packages everything he says as “reefing science,” and his tanks are beautiful.

The problem is that much of what Claude says is demonstrably pseudoscientific nonsense, and it is amplified by his followers because they trust what he says based on his results. It gains authority through both volume and outcome, but it is still misinformation.

His methods and products are not the issue. The misinformation that he authoritatively pumps into the collective knowledge of the hobby is.

Maybe some of you don’t care what is misinformation and only care about outcomes. Fair enough. But don’t argue when somebody can substantiate that the information you are providing to others is misinformation.
 
But does it?

Outcomes and understanding are two very different things.

This thread is about misinformation, not outcomes. People often conflate the two and say, “Well, there are many ways to do something,” as an excuse to avoid calling misinformation what it is. Or they simply cannot identify it as misinformation themselves. That is much of the problem here.

“I do an 80% water change after a cycle, and I wait for nitrate to be zero before adding fish because nitrate is toxic to marine fish. It always works for me because I have never lost a fish.”

That conflates an outcome with the factual information being passed along. Nitrate is not toxic at any reasonable or attainable level to marine fish. The water change may or may not be beneficial for other reasons, but the explanation being propagated is misinformation. It doesn't matter that the advice is not likely harmful, the damage is promoting that water changes must be done to reduce nitrate after a cycle to prevent nitrate toxicity. It is nonsense passed along here daily.

Things like this are part of the reason new reef keepers are mired in nonsense before they ever put a drop of water in their first tank:

You must dump in bottles of bacteria to cycle.
You must keep dumping in bottles of stuff to have “biodiversity.”
You must buy a PAR meter.
You must do ICP tests at least once a month.
You must dose trace elements.
You must dose N and P and maintain Redfield ratios.
You must get DNA testing done.
Don’t forget your amino acid supplements.
Don't forget all of the magic potions.

Every one of those topics, and the resulting “must-have” logic, is dominated by passed on misinformation conflated with outcomes.



I think that can be a tool, but here are countless reliable sources that do not have “build threads.” A nice tank may show that someone can keep a nice tank. It does not automatically make their explanations correct, nor does the absence of a build thread make someone’s information wrong.

Me: I don't pay much attention to people's tank photos or use the photo rank that person on a reefing knowledge scale. Some people have a knack for things without really every understanding much about them, others get lucky, and some have vast expertise and have a bad run.

in any case, I think the thread is straying from the topic:
This thread is about misinformation, not outcomes.

Claude from FM is a prime example. He maintains beautiful tanks. He has a tremendous following of people who repeat anything he says as reefing fact because he packages everything he says as “reefing science,” and his tanks are beautiful.

The problem is that much of what Claude says is demonstrably pseudoscientific nonsense, and it is amplified by his followers because they trust what he says based on his results. It gains authority through both volume and outcome, but it is still misinformation.

His methods and products are not the issue. The misinformation that he authoritatively pumps into the collective knowledge of the hobby is.

Maybe some of you don’t care what is misinformation and only care about outcomes. Fair enough. But don’t argue when somebody can substantiate that the information you are providing to others is misinformation.
That’s fair in theory, but in practice this hobby is flooded with people confidently repeating things they’ve never actually applied long term. A successful, documented tank doesn’t make someone automatically correct, but it at least proves they can consistently execute what they preach in a real system.

I’m not saying “nice tank = unquestionable authority.” I’m saying credibility matters, and demonstrated results should carry more weight than anonymous opinion.

At the same time, outcomes alone shouldn’t make ideas immune from scrutiny either. Plenty of reefing claims get treated as “science” simply because they come from people with beautiful tanks and large followings. That’s exactly how misinformation becomes normalized in this hobby.

Use your own system in determining what's misinformation or not. I was simply sharing mine.
 
At the same time, outcomes alone shouldn’t make ideas immune from scrutiny either. Plenty of reefing claims get treated as “science” simply because they come from people with beautiful tanks and large followings. That’s exactly how misinformation becomes normalized in this hobby.
Without question.
 
Information overload for sure.
Person comes here for advice. Person gets 10 people to respond. Then they try 10 different things creating more issues. Happens every day on this site.
Best advice is to find a reefer who has a build thread and a tank you like. Follow what they do to get it right. This gives you an understanding of how a system functions.

I cant tell you how many threads I have responded to where the OP is trying this and that from recommendations but does not have a basic understanding of reef keeping.
Adopting a specific attitude helps to combat misinformation. That attitude is skepticism, the bedrock of the scientific attitude. Skepticism says that all statements and hypotheses are non-true (though not necessarily false) until proven otherwise with verifiable information. The null hypothesis in the scientific method is a statement of skepticism: a hypotheses is non-true until there there is enough evidence to say it is true with a certain probability. Of course, if that probability is 90% there is still a small probability it is not true. A skeptical attitude would say that the 90% percent true does not translate to 10% false because it does not take into account the "prior probability" of a statement being true or false (Bayes theorem dealing with the the probability was true or false before any observation or test)

Bottom line, hold all statements of "information" lightly and skeptically. Act with incomplete and imperfect information when necessary (most of the time) but dont delude yourself and others that you are acting out of "truth."
 
With so much information all over the place these days, how can anyone in the hobby be able to determine the difference between good information and misinformation?
How do folks filter through it?
Do folks just choose the information that falls in line with their beliefs and experience or is better to follow the information given by popular names in the hobby?

I’ve seen it so many times. I’ve seen what I believe to be good advice being ignored and I’ve seen what I believe to be parroted information being passed around as an absolute true.
this makes me really curious in learning how do you do it.
I am a new reefer as of this year. Starting my reef tank i did lots of research and found my lfs had very vague answers and learned more that pertained to my experience just from a google search. I use common sense to judge information and i dont trust just one source. I trust in the forums for ideas and solutions and I ask alot of questions. I realize that keeping it simple is better so when people suggest anything thats not a natural solution im typically skeptical then do research. Like my first time using "Cure All" or "Kick ich" which worked for me but I didnt believe it at first. I listen to reef therapy and follow jake adams wisdom
 

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