Ich is still in tank even after going full cycle

[StartingATank]

Well the tank temperature is kind of the problem, as every day my temperature fluctuates from 78ish to 80ish, and that is the glory of Texas. I have been able to cool down the tank whenever it overheats with a fan. I did have the tang running a full copper but then I was able to catch another fish that had been surviving in the main tank and added it into there, and forgot to increase the copper again. The only thing that I can remember that was ever shared was a net.

Can you clarify the part where you “caught another fish surviving in main tank”? When you caught this fish, both clocks need to reset, the copper treatment period and the fallow period. Did you go fallow another 45 days+ after you caught the last fish?

BTW, I see nothing in the video of concern, but if you can see them the concern is still there.

So I had a springeri in the main tank who was showing no signs of ich but was basically letting the parasites survive so once I removed him Is when I started the FALLOW period, but I forgot to add copper back into the quarantine tank. I do still see spots, but I noticed at the end of the last video I posted once it speeds back up is when I could see the spots the most in the video

 

[LeftyReefer]

So I had a springeri in the main tank who was showing no signs of ich but was basically letting the parasites survive so once I removed him Is when I started the FALLOW period, but I forgot to add copper back into the quarantine tank.

What was the copper level of your QT and how long were the fish held in the copper?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Ok I kinda got one

I can only see one possible ich spot on the fish's right flank....

 

[StartingATank]

So I had a springeri in the main tank who was showing no signs of ich but was basically letting the parasites survive so once I removed him Is when I started the FALLOW period, but I forgot to add copper back into the quarantine tank.

What was the copper level of your QT and how long were the fish held in the copper?

I held it at 2.5, sometimes it went down to 2.3 but then one time I was using a dosage calculator and it told me to put in 8 ml of copper power, which was three times the normal amount, so I did an emergency water change, which probably lowered it a little below 2.2 but the next day I increased it back to normal, so I know this resets the clock, but I did have the fish as high copper for like 40 days and this was at the beginning of the copper treatment so I believe I had the copper at the right level I just forgot to add it in again once I caught the other fish

 

[StartingATank]

Also, from the time last night and this morning, the spots have not changed at all, except for the ones on his tail, which have gone, but the one on his side is big bunt the rest are tiny, so maybe it’s ich maybe not, I don’t really know

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Also, from the time last night and this morning, the spots have not changed at all, except for the ones on his tail, which have gone, but the one on his side is big bunt the rest are tiny, so maybe it’s ich maybe not, I don’t really know

That doesn't sound much like ich....

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/self-diagnosis-of-common-marine-fish-diseases.1141555/

 

[StartingATank]

The only thing that it looks like is either Ich or velvet, using your thread and this website:
https://aquaticreefdesignocala.com/saltwater-fish-diseases/. But if it was velvet, wouldn't the Tang be dead by now? Or at least showing breathing symptoms other than the spots?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

The only thing that it looks like is either Ich or velvet, using your thread and this website:
https://aquaticreefdesignocala.com/saltwater-fish-diseases/. But if it was velvet, wouldn't the Tang be dead by now? Or at least showing breathing symptoms other than the spots?

Correct - for sure this isn't velvet, the main symptom for that is rapid breathing, followed by death in a few days. Both of the pictures of "velvet" in the link you posted are actually of ich. We had similar misidentified pictures here, but I've been working on editing them....

 

[StartingATank]

So most of the spots have gone away there are just two left, one of which I could just be seeing that isn’t there, but the other one has shrunk from that huge one that was in his side

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

So most of the spots have gone away there are just two left, one of which I could just be seeing that isn’t there, but the other one has shrunk from that huge one that was in his side

A spot that shrinks in size over time isn't ich. Ich trophonts grow in size on the fish's body, then drop off when they reach full size, in order to create a prototomont and then the tomont resting stage.....

 

[StartingATank]

Ok so an update:
I will be introducing the other fish in tonight except for the damsel for now, and will see if the tangs condition improves or declines, there is no rapid breathing on the tang but the spots are still there and a couple days ago they completely went away. I noticed they are staying predominantly on its head but there are some spots on its body and top fin. I’m just so baffled by this.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Ok so an update:
I will be introducing the other fish in tonight except for the damsel for now, and will see if the tangs condition improves or declines, there is no rapid breathing on the tang but the spots are still there and a couple days ago they completely went away. I noticed they are staying predominantly on its head but there are some spots on its body and top fin. I’m just so baffled by this.

Ich doesn’t cause rapid breathing until the very end stage.

I don’t suppose this is something you can capture in a photo?

 

[StartingATank]

Ok so an update:
I will be introducing the other fish in tonight except for the damsel for now, and will see if the tangs condition improves or declines, there is no rapid breathing on the tang but the spots are still there and a couple days ago they completely went away. I noticed they are staying predominantly on its head but there are some spots on its body and top fin. I’m just so baffled by this.

Ich doesn’t cause rapid breathing until the very end stage.

I don’t suppose this is something you can capture in a photo?

I can try, will give pictures later today

 

[StartingATank]

Ok I took a video hope it helps.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Ok I took a video hope it helps.

I can’t see ich, but it doesn’t mean it isn’t there. I can’t see mucus plugs either…

 

[StartingATank]

Ok here is a new video and a frame from that video that you can see the spots kinda well

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Ok here is a new video and a frame from that video that you can see the spots kinda well

O.K. - that helps! This isn't marine ich, that would never be localized in one area of the fish's head like that.

 

[StartingATank]

Ok here is a new video and a frame from that video that you can see the spots kinda well

There is like 1 spot on its side and the three on its side fin, but that is all there is

 

[StartingATank]

I will introduce the clownfish after I am done with the water change I am doing today

 

[StartingATank]

The clownfish look healthy, but the tangs breathing rate has increased and there seems to be a water mark looking thing on one of the clownfishes head but other than that everything seems fine.