Introducing biodiversity without live rock, sand

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I do understand that sentiment and you're totally right. On the other hand, I knew the dimensions and could tell they would fit, and if not I could have smashed it up. They didn't even ask for my tank dimensions to know it wouldn't fit so I guess they double as mediums!
Frankly, the answer the LFS gave you does not make logical sense from any standpoint. I would ask them again for their logic specifically - I would love to hear it. Additionally - why it takes 8 months- 2 years to stock a reef tank.

PS - I won't hold my breath for a good response since apparently they confused 'liferock' with liverock. Now - here is a possible answer - how much was the 'liferock' per pound compared to their 'live rock'?
 
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Frankly, the answer the LFS gave you does not make logical sense from any standpoint. I would ask them again for their logic specifically - I would love to hear it. Additionally - why it takes 8 months- 2 years to stock a reef tank.

PS - I won't hold my breath for a good response since apparently they confused 'liferock' with liverock. Now - here is a possible answer - how much was the 'liferock' per pound compared to their 'live rock'?
Lol I'll be sure to inquire next time. I want to clarify I'm not at all upset with the Liferock. It actually worked out cheaper than if I had bought wet rock since it was pre-measured at 10lbs, and marginally cheaper per pound. To the store owner's credit, she unpackaged all the rocks so I could see what they looked like first, without me asking her to. I really appreciated that. Easily could have sold me a blind box.

I knew it wasn't live rock, but I like it much better visually than plain white base rock. The owner also told me the Liferock is more porous which I actually believe to be true; very lightweight and easy to scape with. It seemed to speed up my cycle. The pieces are nicely shaped too.
 

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Lol I'll be sure to inquire next time. I want to clarify I'm not at all upset with the Liferock. It actually worked out cheaper than if I had bought wet rock since it was pre-measured at 10lbs, and marginally cheaper per pound. To the store owner's credit, she unpackaged all the rocks so I could see what they looked like first, without me asking her to. I really appreciated that. Easily could have sold me a blind box.

I knew it wasn't live rock, but I like it much better visually than plain white base rock. The owner also told me the Liferock is more porous which I actually believe to be true; very lightweight and easy to scape with. It seemed to speed up my cycle. The pieces are nicely shaped too.
You wil do fine
 
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I'm cautiously optimistic since I know chain store fish can be a gamble, but he seems healthy and is a stunning fish for only $30.
Major sigh of relief; offered a couple flakes to see if he'd take them and I've never had a fish eat so ravenously lol! He got so excited he started trying to eat the spots of salt creep outside the tank :face-with-tears-of-joy:
 

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Major sigh of relief; offered a couple flakes to see if he'd take them and I've never had a fish eat so ravenously lol! He got so excited he started trying to eat the spots of salt creep outside the tank :face-with-tears-of-joy:
Frankly many fish (if not provided something they do not like - will eat flake or other foods It may not be the 'best' according to some - for long-term but its positive for short term
 
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Frankly many fish (if not provided something they do not like - will eat flake or other foods It may not be the 'best' according to some - for long-term but its positive for short term
Don't worry, I'm well aware! I don't feed any of my fish flakes as a staple. I had them on hand from cycling and didn't want to waste frozen food without knowing what his appetite was like yet. I forgot my frozen shrimp had bloodworms mixed in, so I'm going out right now to buy him some fresh new goodies. :)
 

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Holy smoke! A LFS that refused to sell you something??? Nice to find an ethical LFS!
Reef Shac in Atlanta have refused to sell me stuff every time I go there. Always a wag of the finger on anything they think I'll kill and directed toward anything they think will be fine. I'm brand new to this hobby so a horrible reefer but everything they've sold me has lived! Even a montipora digitata which has grown magnificently in what must be less than ideal conditions.
 

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Lol I'll be sure to inquire next time. I want to clarify I'm not at all upset with the Liferock. It actually worked out cheaper than if I had bought wet rock since it was pre-measured at 10lbs, and marginally cheaper per pound. To the store owner's credit, she unpackaged all the rocks so I could see what they looked like first, without me asking her to. I really appreciated that. Easily could have sold me a blind box.

I knew it wasn't live rock, but I like it much better visually than plain white base rock. The owner also told me the Liferock is more porous which I actually believe to be true; very lightweight and easy to scape with. It seemed to speed up my cycle. The pieces are nicely shaped too.
Magnapinna - you could try Premier Aquatics - they have a stack of wet live rock from what must be from a very old aquarium at $2 a lb. I was there this weekend and found 40 cents worth (1/5th of a pound??) covered with burgundy discosoma with blue dots and a yellow mouth. Previously I've bought rocks covered in zoa's and paly's, a green rhodactis (my favorite so far). They have bristle worms on them, I have copepods running around and a bit of hair algae but all healthy stuff really and nothing has been harmful in my two tanks.
 
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Magnapinna - you could try Premier Aquatics - they have a stack of wet live rock from what must be from a very old aquarium at $2 a lb. I was there this weekend and found 40 cents worth (1/5th of a pound??) covered with burgundy discosoma with blue dots and a yellow mouth. Previously I've bought rocks covered in zoa's and paly's, a green rhodactis (my favorite so far). They have bristle worms on them, I have copepods running around and a bit of hair algae but all healthy stuff really and nothing has been harmful in my two tanks.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely stop by sometime! Fortunately biodiversity isn't a big concern of mine anymore. A bacterial bloom just cleared itself up; now I'm starting to see diatoms on the sand which my blue leg hermits are happily munching on. I plan to take a microscope sample a little later to see if any other life is establishing itself. I could fit one more small piece of rock in here though, if I could get a little piece like that from Premier Aquatics that would be perfect.
 
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You guys were right, adding livestock totally did the trick. Today I noticed what I thought was debris getting blown by the current along the sand. Looked a little closer and realized it was moving on its own. Tons of copepods!
 

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Tada! It's a bit of a magic trick, isn't it? They'll get in there somehow, and then, like glitter, you'll never be rid of them.
 

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