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Calm down, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Good bad or otherwise. If you don’t agree with their summations that’s your choice. You also have no idea about anyones situation. As for my double speak comment.. It’s pretty easy to see if you read what they wrote. I’m not going to waste time trying to explain it to you.. You’ll just want to fight over it and it’s obvious no one will convince you otherwise. Anyone that retorts every comment with fluff like I posted above just is here to argue.You opted out. Why are you still here talking about it? We knew at the time there wasn't a working product. And you have no idea what their financial situation is.
For those who just keep banging on about getting your kidney, sorry, money back... that’s not even the point.
1. pay preorder in 2019 for feb 2020 shipment. Also don’t forget, the original release date was Dec 2019.
2. COVID hits so there are “supply issues”
3. March 2020 deadline nears and they are going to use opportunity to “redesign” from the ground up.
3. Feb 2021 after the upteenth failed release date, we’re now been told the ion probe is not stable in beta testing.
THIS!Food for thought from a different perspective.
Being in manufacturing (GM at deltran.com) let me share with you what I am facing on a daily bases, and with speaking with my piers, so are they.
Deltran Inc. is a job shop that specializes in precision metal stampings and high speed tapping with customers in the electronics, telecommunication, aerospace, automotive, and power transmission fields.
We purchase raw material from a secondary slitting/rolling house who in turn get the raw material mill direct. Typical lead times on raw materials (brass, copper, steel, stainless, aluminum) would range from 2-5 weeks.
COVID has had a major effect on getting the basic raw materials I need. Most of last year, we didn't see much an increase in lead times, however, since the beginning of this year some lead times have been increased to 10 months. Reason being, with demand down the mills slowed production, turned off some of their blast furnaces and laid people off.
Now with demand increasing, the mills can't keep up. It takes a very long time to bring the furnaces back on line, and add to that, workers returning to work need to be vetted for COVID, new workers need training (8-12 weeks) and the kicker, once they find out how hard the job is, they quit to go back to sitting on the couch collecting the same pay to do nothing.
This brings me to my point, my customers (like us with GHL) want their product now, they don't care about the delays I have in getting raw materials, and call/email me daily for updates and explanations on why I can't deliver on time.
No matter how many times I explain the situation, they believe I'm not doing enough.
I won't even get into the added issues of why the cost of the parts have increased 15-25% which I need to jump thru hoops for them to agree to. But in case you are wondering, as an example, Copper is up 48-52% which in turn drive the raw material up anywhere from 25-40%.
Trust me, I would love to be able get these parts out the door ASAP and make money, but do to supply issues beyond my control, I can't.
Now I know GHL is still in the trial phase, but when it comes time for production, they might have supply issues too.
Completely off topic by now but I did some work for a mining company and one thing that struck me as interesting was that they couldn't easily stop and restart metal production. Because as the molten metal cooled in place it would destroy parts of the foundry equipment. So, at least for them, 'turning it off' actually meant accepting that you'd have to dismantle and dispose of a lot of equipment and replace it with new stuff. The total cost of 'turning it off' was eye-watering.It takes a very long time to bring the furnaces back on line
All of this, but mainly this: "I would love to carbon dose based on NO3"I mean this thing is going to be so cool, that I will wait regardless, even if the frustration is killing me.. anyway, to more important things.. What struck me was that the post showing Vinny’s setup, says that you can control dosing based on Ca, Mg but just check the rest.. I would love to carbon dose based on NO3.. is that a possibility? @[email protected]
All of this, but mainly this: "I would love to carbon dose based on NO3"
Maybe not so much carbon dose, but more NO3 dosing and possibly PO4 once you have a ratio figured out.I hadn't even thought of that use case - which is really cool, except you would surely need to consider Orp and other water quality issues (possibly DO) and have strict limits on the % change.
Yes.I mean this thing is going to be so cool, that I will wait regardless, even if the frustration is killing me.. anyway, to more important things.. What struck me was that the post showing Vinny’s setup, says that you can control doaing based on Ca, Mg but just check the rest.. I would love to carbon dose based on NO3.. is that a possibility? @[email protected]
They just need to come out with a honest estimate. Not stringing it along. This is the trident all over again. If they just said hey June shipping. And be done with it. But keep moving the goal post monthly... Is a bit annoying. But they truly don't care because they know people are gonna buy it.
Reading the statement from GHL there was only one thing that caught my eye.
The analysis of the beta test results has shown that different environmental conditions can affect the IOND readings, so the chemical composition of the sensors will be optimized again.
So In other words they are going to get another Ion Probe made again! The real question is can an Ion Probe do what is needed or are they just not suited for this kind of work? Matthias is betting big that they do work and I really hope he is right, as it will open up so many other water testing areas in this hobby.
The problem is that I cannot find an example of one being used to test SW on a continual basis.
I think by June we will have an answer one way or the other. If you have held out this long It only makes sense to go a few extra months.