Is this safe

[Daddy-o]

Figure you guys are pretty handy. New panel in my daughter's apartment bathroom

 

[Mical]

I would question landlord /mgmt co. Doesn't look code to me but I'm going by pics that appear that box is not mounted correctly. Or was not pushed back flush after work was done. Mgmt needs to explain to you why it looks like this IMO

 

[Shon]

Dunno about the electrical hazard but.. Bathroom? Looks like a future build up of humidity, dripping behind the walls and mold/mildew growth.

 

[DaneGer21]

Is it safe? Yes, because all connections are inside the panel. Is it to code, no.

I’d be calling the office and demand it have trim around it or something...at least “fill” the gap.

If not, take pictures, print them out, and have the landlord sign them so you cannot be held liable for anything after the fact.

 

[That Crusso Kid]

Figure you guys are pretty handy. New panel in my daughter's apartment bathroom

If wood studs are being used, according to code, the box must he flush to the wall. If using a non-combustible wall material (steel studs, concrete, etc) then there can be up to 1/4" gap. In either case, the panel looks to be against code.

 

[ReeferSteve]

It’s definitely against code. And I would definitely not want a panel in my bathroom.

 

[fishguy242]

agree ask questions

 

[Bigtrout]

Figure you guys are pretty handy. New panel in my daughter's apartment bathroom

It is against code to have a panel in the bathroom. And the workmanship on that panel just stinks. A flushmount panel should be flush so thats another code no no. Whatever "electrical contractor" did this needs their license revoked!

Heres some relevant National Electrical Code blurbs.

An electrical panel containing the service disconnecting means cannot be located in a bathroom [230.70(A)(2)].
In dwelling units and guest rooms or suites of hotels and motels, overcurrent devices cannot be located in bathrooms [240.24(E)].

 

[vetteguy53081]

Does meet any electric codes and must be secured properly. Would not accept this in My room what says that of my Children.

 

[Daddy-o]

They replaced a previous panel. My daughter asked about the gap and they said they will fill it. She only has to stay here til June.

 

[Bigtrout]

They replaced a previous panel. My daughter asked about the gap and they said they will fill it. She only has to stay here til June.

Filling it wont fix the fact that its in a bathroom...and NO a panel in a bathroom isnt "grandfathered" in even if there was one there before 1993 when it was legal.
Glad shes only there til June. If the workmanship outside the panel is that bad, whats it like on the inside where it really counts?

 

[Daddy-o]

Filling it wont fix the fact that its in a bathroom...and NO a panel in a bathroom isnt "grandfathered" in even if there was one there before 1993 when it was legal.
Glad shes only there til June. If the workmanship outside the panel is that bad, whats it like on the inside where it really counts?

Crap, that means they didnt pull a permit? They are doing maybe 100 apartments. Suppose I should contact her local building/planning office?

 

[Daddy-o]

Is it possible they left it out for inspection?

 

[fishguy242]

no

 

[Daddy-o]

Really sucks! all of these apartments have college kids. So some moron has put approx. 300 of our children at risk.

 

[Bigtrout]

Is it possible they left it out for inspection?

No any inspector worth his salt will remove the cover and look inside.
Im not talking as a handy guy. Im an electrician by trade with 30 years experience.

 

[Bigtrout]

Really sucks! all of these apartments have college kids. So some moron has put approx. 300 of our children at risk.

The reason for no overcurrent devices in a bathroom is moisture...wet floors, water being splashed etc. Not safe for people and very hard on the equipment. Aluminum bussed panels and moisture dont work well. The aluminum corrodes and the breakers get loose where they clip onto the buss. Bad connections=heat=not good.

 

[Daddy-o]

They are going to do this to every apartment to make them safer

 

[fishguy242]

i would still call local bldg dept ,make aware if not

 

[Daddy-o]

Yea, my concern is she mentioned to the electrician that it looked like crap and it would be a nightmare if they kicked her and her room mates out before end of year.