Is this two wrasse's courting or an imminent death about to happen?

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  1. Dogtown

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    I'm a little worried. I'm thinking that one of these females is becoming dominant and will transition to become a male. The one being beat up is staying in the corner and yesterday it stayed in hiding all day. Do I need to add a few more females? Something else maybe?

     
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    That appears to be aggression from my viewpoint
     
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    Yup and your going to have to separate them...maybe trade one to a LFS....
     
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    Can you safely keep two female bipartitus wrasses together in the same tank? I realize that one will eventually turn male but is a harem required?
     
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    I can put one in the refugium as a short term solution. Would a harem be the long term solution? Both of these blue stars are healthy and eating well. I'd rather QT a couple more if that will work just as well. Anyone know?
     
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    From what I understand of wrasses we can't recreate the harem in the home aquarium...both that u have are probably already male and all that u add will eventually turn as well...@eatbreakfast and @evolved will know more about this particular species
     
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    What size tank is this? I've never seen a successful harem of any kind of wrasse kept long term in captivity. Usually you can get away with having 2 females/ 1 less aggressive male and 1 female but that too doesn't always work out. I agree with the above and would also rehome one of the leopards.
     
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    Its a 110 gal shallow wide rimless.
     
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    It would be advisable to re-home one.
     
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    Any chance I can get a more detailed response? I made the title simple to get attention but this isn't my first merry go around. Looking for a solution that will allow multiple blue stars to co-exist (if this is possible).
     
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    Thanks, this is definitely helpful insight. I really need to understand this process in the home aquarium and what has worked for others (if that's even the case).
     
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    Why wouldn't it tag him for me?? Lol
     
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    In home aquaria most wrasse harem won't work. The females will eventually turn to male or sub-alpha male. This would cause aggression. If I were you, I'd trade one and get a different type of wrasse.
     
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    Of all the genera, Macropharyngodon is the one that often doesn't necessarily transition to male in our tanks and sometimes groups of females can be kept. Whether this behavior is significant enough to require rehoming one of the two I'll defer to @eatbreakfast . I don't think it's impossible though.
     
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    It sounds like @eatbreakfast is the guru. I'm definitely looking forward to his/her comments.

    According to Liveaquaria, they do best in groups of three or more in the home aquarium. So I'm fine with getting one or two more if that is the case. Just want to make sure I'm on the right track here. Anyone else been successfully keeping these? How many do you/did you have?
     
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    Thanks Saltyhog!
     
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    I agree with Saltyhog. Of the various reef safe wrasses leopard wrasses can do well in a harem in captivity, as they are more reluctant to transition into males.

    In this instance, I would recommend rehoming the aggressive one, and adding at least a trio of females to try a harem.
     
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    I appreciate the advice. I hadn’t even considered removing the aggressive one. Was going to go after the one being picked on because I was thinking i might be able to get that one.

    Do you or anybody else have any suggestions on a good way to capture the aggressive one without tearing apart the tank?
     
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    A fish trap with a mirror in the back will get the dominant wrasse's attention.
     
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