LED diode help from a DIYer

ZoWhat

7500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 23, 2014
Messages
9,951
Reaction score
17,601
Location
Cincinnati Ohio
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
images.jpg


I need help finding a place online to buy this exact LED diode.

Heres what I know about the PCB board it will be soldered to:

* 5watt diode
* somewhere in the 450nm range

* its driven by a RoHS power supply: 70watt 550mA 60-100volt dimmable power supply driving 30 (thirty) LEDs

Can a DIYer please help me find these LEDs as a few have burned out, easy replacement soldering job if I have the correct one. I reached out to the Mfgr snd they are NOOO help at all



.

images.jpg


images.jpg
 

TheEngineer

Formerly icecool2
View Badges
Joined
Nov 26, 2011
Messages
7,296
Reaction score
7,695
Location
PA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
It’s gonna be hard to find the exact part without knowing what it is ahead of time. Unfortunately LED manufacturers don’t put much information on them (there just isn’t room generally). That does look to be a standard footprint though so you should be able to find replacement parts nonetheless.

Since you know the frequency of light you want you can select what works for you that is around 2 W and 550mA.
 

redfishbluefish

Stay Positive, Stay Productive
View Badges
Joined
Mar 22, 2012
Messages
11,711
Reaction score
25,759
Location
Sayreville, NJ
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Why do you think it's 5 watts?

I ordered all my LED's out of China....takes 3 or 4 weeks.

Now if what you have are 3 watts, HERE are the 453 nm LED beads I used in my rebuilds.
 
OP
OP
ZoWhat

ZoWhat

7500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 23, 2014
Messages
9,951
Reaction score
17,601
Location
Cincinnati Ohio
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Why do you think it's 5 watts?

I ordered all my LED's out of China....takes 3 or 4 weeks.

Now if what you have are 3 watts, HERE are the 453 nm LED beads I used in my rebuilds.

Bc i THOUGHT the light is rated at 300w and has 60 LEDs.... is my math wrong? 5w x 60 diodes = 300watts ???

But the TWO power supplies max out at 70w each...marked right on both power supplies

I'm confused as heck..

I know EACH CHANNEL is powered by 70w, 500mA, dimmable btwn 60v-100v.

Can someone HELP me with the MATH given each power supply is 70w at 550mA???


.
 
Last edited:
OP
OP
ZoWhat

ZoWhat

7500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 23, 2014
Messages
9,951
Reaction score
17,601
Location
Cincinnati Ohio
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
FRONT LABEL DESCRIBING THE LIGHT (60 LEDS)
20180922_013545.jpg

NOTE: LEDGLE HAS DISCONTINUED THIS MODEL, ITS NOT SUPPORTED BY LEDGLE IN ANY WAY
 

redfishbluefish

Stay Positive, Stay Productive
View Badges
Joined
Mar 22, 2012
Messages
11,711
Reaction score
25,759
Location
Sayreville, NJ
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I'm certainly no electrical genius, so that is why I'm asking @Brew12 to check this out. My simplified little brain tells me that a 70 watt driver running 30 leds, (70 / 30 = 2.3 watts), you have 3 watt LEDs. Now if you have fans also running off that power supply, those LEDs are more at 2.1 or so watts.

If they sold these as 300 watts, and since watts are additive, when I add up 70 + 70, I get 140 watts. Where are the extra watts coming from? Now, that said, what has become common place with LEDs is that they take the so-called maximum watt rating of the LED and multiply that times the number of LEDs. So if they are 3 watt LED's and you have 60, I'd expect this to be advertised as a 180 watt fixture.

Again, I don't know what I'm talking about....so let @Brew12 throw in his two cents.
 

Brew12

Electrical Gru
View Badges
Joined
Aug 14, 2016
Messages
22,488
Reaction score
61,036
Location
Decatur, AL
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I'm certainly no electrical genius, so that is why I'm asking @Brew12 to check this out. My simplified little brain tells me that a 70 watt driver running 30 leds, (70 / 30 = 2.3 watts), you have 3 watt LEDs. Now if you have fans also running off that power supply, those LEDs are more at 2.1 or so watts.

If they sold these as 300 watts, and since watts are additive, when I add up 70 + 70, I get 140 watts. Where are the extra watts coming from? Now, that said, what has become common place with LEDs is that they take the so-called maximum watt rating of the LED and multiply that times the number of LEDs. So if they are 3 watt LED's and you have 60, I'd expect this to be advertised as a 180 watt fixture.

Again, I don't know what I'm talking about....so let @Brew12 throw in his two cents.
You got this absolutely correct. Many LED manufacturers list the total watts of LED's installed, not the maximum power the light can use.
 
OP
OP
ZoWhat

ZoWhat

7500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 23, 2014
Messages
9,951
Reaction score
17,601
Location
Cincinnati Ohio
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Makes sense....

WHERE'S a good place online to buy 3watt diodes that's U.S. based?

Ebay has many vendors but they a lot of them ship out of China and it takes 4 weeks to get delivery


.
 

Brew12

Electrical Gru
View Badges
Joined
Aug 14, 2016
Messages
22,488
Reaction score
61,036
Location
Decatur, AL
Rating - 0%
0   0   0

chipmunkofdoom2

Always Making Something
View Badges
Joined
Jun 6, 2017
Messages
2,417
Reaction score
4,498
Location
Baltimore, MD
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
So in fairness, the manufacturer claims that these are 5W LEDs (cached page). The specs definitely don't say that's possible though.

It sounds like any LED three watts or less with a current rating of at least 550mA would work. Try this listing here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1W-3W-5W-W...ith-PCB/322502129003?var=&hash=item4b169ff56b

They're US stock so the shipping shouldn't take weeks. Just choose 3W, no PCB, and the color you want, and you should be in business.
 

Brew12

Electrical Gru
View Badges
Joined
Aug 14, 2016
Messages
22,488
Reaction score
61,036
Location
Decatur, AL
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
So in fairness, the manufacturer claims that these are 5W LEDs (cached page). The specs definitely don't say that's possible though.

It sounds like any LED three watts or less with a current rating of at least 550mA would work. Try this listing here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1W-3W-5W-W...ith-PCB/322502129003?var=&hash=item4b169ff56b

They're US stock so the shipping shouldn't take weeks. Just choose 3W, no PCB, and the color you want, and you should be in business.
It could be a 5W LED that is run at less than 50% power. Stranger things have happened.
 

Flippers4pups

Fins up since 1993
View Badges
Joined
Jun 21, 2016
Messages
18,499
Reaction score
60,638
Location
Lake Saint Louis, Mo
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Based on my research some time ago when I was just looking into modding my Mars Aquas, I'm trying to remember if 3w and 5w diodes have same foot print. I think they do.
 

redfishbluefish

Stay Positive, Stay Productive
View Badges
Joined
Mar 22, 2012
Messages
11,711
Reaction score
25,759
Location
Sayreville, NJ
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Actually this additional talk brought back memories of 3 versus 5 watt LED's. They could have the same footprint, however, every 5 watt LED I've seen has either 2 or 4 "chips" within the lens. The 3 watt LED's I've seen only have the one chip. The picture the OP supplied above clearly shows one chip in the lens. Those are 3 watt LED's and as far as I'm concerned this manufacturer is using false advertising representing these fixtures as 300 watts.
 

Just grow it: Have you ever added CO2 to your reef tank?

  • I currently use a CO2 with my reef tank.

    Votes: 6 6.7%
  • I don’t currently use CO2 with my reef tank, but I have in the past.

    Votes: 4 4.4%
  • I have never used CO2 with my reef tank, but I plan to in the future.

    Votes: 5 5.6%
  • I have never used CO2 with my reef tank and have no plans to in the future.

    Votes: 70 77.8%
  • Other.

    Votes: 5 5.6%
Back
Top