Let Me ID Your Wrasse!

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  1. eatbreakfast

    eatbreakfast Fish Nerd Staff Member Team R2R R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Showcase Editor Expert Contributor Partner Member Partner Member 2018

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    They get to a little over 4".
     

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    A little help.
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    Crescent tail fairy wrasse I think? Defer to the experts if they say something else though. :)

    Also I have a question what's the difference between c. lunatus and c. cf lunatus? I know cf means similar to, so they are different species but I'm having a hard time figuring out which is which since there seems to be a lot of individual variations? Plus a lot of pictures seem to be mislabeled.
     
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    I'd agree, that what it appears to be. Any idea on what a typical fair price is?
     
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    C. cf. lunatus.
    cf means to confer. A cf. species may or may not be a new species, so if one is going to consider describing one scientifically, they would confer to the description of a close relative.

    In the case of C. lunatus and C. cf. lunatus, the original description is of a specimen from Japan, whereas the specimens being collected from the Philippines are cf. lunatus. These populations may or may not be separate species, based on range and coloration.
    Males are usually around $150.
     
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    Thanks for the help guys, thats why I love this place. Guess $80 was a steal for a sub-male!;)
     
  7. evolved

    evolved The Wrasse Guy Staff Member Team R2R R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award AZ FRAG Member Expert Contributor Article Contributor Partner Member 2018

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    Subtle difference. The visual differences are that the Japanese has a gold bar on the sides, whereas the Philippine has a lateral stripe in its place (very similar to C. isosceles in this regard).

    C. lunatus (Japan):
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    C. cf. lunatus (Philippians):
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    The last two posted above on this thread both appear as true lunatus to me, fwiw.
     
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    I'd on the pink and white fairy?[​IMG]
     
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    evolved The Wrasse Guy Staff Member Team R2R R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award AZ FRAG Member Expert Contributor Article Contributor Partner Member 2018

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    female C. lubbocki
     
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    Judging from the pictures above, now that he has settled down he appears to be a Japanese C. Lunatus
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    Yup :)
    (Although it's probably from the northern Philippines. The "Japanese" label on lunatus may be a misnomer.)
    It's more correct to say it's C. lunatus (and not C. cf. lunatus).
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Mine doesn't have blue like that on his tail. Your original pictures showed him with a clear/white tail, looked just like mine. I'll try to grab another photo.
     
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    The amount of black in the fins will be variable unless it's a terminal male.
     
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    I saw these three at my LFS and was wondering what they were to do some research on them.
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  16. eatbreakfast

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    Top pic, Halichoeres radiatus, pudding wife Wrasse. They get big, are semi-aggressive, and will eat motile inverts.

    Lower pic, Halichoeres iridis. A more peaceful species. May eat inverts.
     
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    Thank you! What is the 3rd picture? I know it’s blurry, but the color and shape is their.
     
  18. eatbreakfast

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    I didn't even notice the third picture originally. Hologymnus rhodonotus, a type of cigar Wrasse. Gets big, fairly peaceful for it's size, but will eat inverts.
     
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    IMG_3146.JPG IMG_3145.JPG She was sold to me as a lunatus but I'm not convinced. She's VERY pink/violet. Johnsoni? Squirei?
    Pattern and tiny spot near tail match pictures of female squirei but her vivid pink looks like a picture I saw of @evolved 's female Johnsoni
     
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  20. evolved

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    It's C. cf. lunatus.
     
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