Litermeter 3 for larger volume water changes?

[KStatefan]

I’m guessing that there will be a good bit of sticker shock involved.

I am also. But that is for everything today. I purchased 25 sheets of 16 ga galvinized for a project at work and it was $1.05 per pound a year ago it was less then $0.50.

 

[Water Dog]

It’s really unfortunate. I used to be able to order their pumps and ATOs from Marine Depot to at least save a few bucks from their really high shipping charges. Then I noticed that after their last price increase a little over a year ago, they only sold those items directly. Now with this latest price gouge, it may be time to seek alternative options. It’s a shame really. I’ve been a loyal Spectrapure customer and proponent for many years.

 

[BZOFIQ]

Looks like they are still cleaning out the the site.

ATO - Gen7 system last year $203

ATO - Gen7 this year $300

 

[Water Dog]

Yeah, it’s nuts... that basic ATO was $150 3 or 4 years ago.

 

[RobB'z Reef]

Do you run the Spectrapure AWC system along with their ATO? I just placed an order for the LM3, remote module and the overflow sensor to get set up with AWC. I would like to change 4L daily on my total 100g system. I'd also like to add their ATO without removing saltwater and pumping in RODI.

Otherwise in worst case I let AWC system work while I'm home and only use ATO and disconnect AWC system when I'm away from home.

I use Spectrapure's liquid level controller to automatically fill my ATO container, it works flawlessly and is hooked directly up to my RODI unit. For what it costs it's amazing! While I don't have direct experience with the LM3 I know ppl who use it for larger volume changes over great distances and they swear by it. I myself will be getting one when I'm ready to do AWC... while it's a tad more expensive than some systems all of Spectrapure's equipment does not rely on you having a controller to use them. Solid company with a solid rep for equipment that lasts.

 

[KStatefan]

Noticed last night that the G7 ato lost three years of warranty over the previous version.

 

[KStatefan]

Litermeter 4 is now available

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[BZOFIQ]

Things just got real..............











....expensive.

 

[Big E]

If you buy a controller and pump separately it's less than the starter kit.

$540 vs 580

The auto top off unit isn't really needed. I used a LM3 for years based off evaporation rate.

Those look like standard plugs/power supplies for the pumps. I'm wondering if you could just hook up some less expensive pumps from another brand. That could save about $200

 

[BZOFIQ]

I'm just going to buy 2 pumps and run them through my controller.

 

[KStatefan]

If you buy a controller and pump separately it's less than the starter kit.

$540 vs 580

The auto top off unit isn't really needed. I used a LM3 for years based off evaporation rate.

Those look like standard plugs/power supplies for the pumps. I'm wondering if you could just hook up some less expensive pumps from another brand. That could save about $200

The kit comes with a liquid level sensor also. I have not seen them individually on the website.

I think the litermeter4 is off my list to purchase. The increased price and the decrease in warranty from 5 years to 1 year.

 

[Big E]

The kit comes with a liquid level sensor also. I have not seen them individually on the website.

I think the litermeter4 is off my list to purchase. The increased price and the decrease in warranty from 5 years to 1 year.

Yes that's why it costs more. My suggestion is you don't need the sensor. If you just buy a slave pump and do your water top off based on evaporation calculations you don't need the sensor.

The pump alone without a sensor is 260.

I don't trust sensors of any brand...........just an item I will never use.
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I understand the cost factor and it does suck they dropped their warranty to a year.

I am still wondering about using an $80 peristaltic pump of another brand as I think all those power supplies are standard.

 

[BZOFIQ]

I think the litermeter4 is off my list to purchase. The increased price and the decrease in warranty from 5 years to 1 year.

I'm definitely turned off too. Maybe I get lucky and spot LMIII for sale somewhere.

 

[KStatefan]

I'm definitely turned off too. Maybe I get lucky and spot LMIII for sale somewhere.

The reduction in warranty is a bigger deal to me then the price. To me that says Spectapure thinks it lower quality and expected warranty claims to be to high if they continued the 5 year warranty

 

[BZOFIQ]

The reduction in warranty is a bigger deal to me then the price. To me that says Spectapure thinks it lower quality and expected warranty claims to be to high if they continued the 5 year warranty

That's like if Abyzz lowered their 10-year warranty to 1 or 2 years. People would think twice about spending that kind of money. Length of warranty shows how well the manufacturer thinks of its own product and affords comfort to the end-user should something go wrong. Going from 5 to 2 year makes one think that the quality of the product has really gone down and the manufacturer just doesn't want to deal with issues past the initial 24 months post-purchase.

I guess comparing to some other manufacturers it's still 2 years vs 1 but if you're going to charge so much more money one would expect an unchanged length of warranty.

 

[KStatefan]

That's like if Abyzz lowered their 10-year warranty to 1 or 2 years. People would think twice about spending that kind of money. Length of warranty shows how well the manufacturer thinks of its own product and affords comfort to the end-user should something go wrong. Going from 5 to 2 year makes one think that the quality of the product has really gone down and the manufacturer just doesn't want to deal with issues past the initial 24 months post-purchase.

I guess comparing to some other manufacturers it's still 2 years vs 1 but if you're going to charge so much more money one would expect an unchanged length of warranty.

It looks like a nice system though. The non contact level sensor would eliminate a lot of the possible errors and would be easy to install.

Litermeter 4 is only 1 year

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/richpanel-data/MessengerAttachments/3d5afcd2-febd-4020-9b51-0223b8d35990/AA%20LM4%20Manual_interactive.pdf

 

[GarrettT]

Wow... Just wow.... What a shame!

 

[RobB'z Reef]

I'm definitely turned off too. Maybe I get lucky and spot LMIII for sale somewhere.

this was a disappointment of epic proportions... I was all pumped (get it) on getting a Liter Meter 4 when i first heard of it. I was holding off on the 3 just because of the forth coming 4. Then I saw the price and if wt(F) wasn't appropriate enough for that, the warranty... i mean common Spectrapure. Their brand loyalty from me took a nose dive after that.

 

[KStatefan]

this was a disappointment of epic proportions... I was all pumped (get it) on getting a Liter Meter 4 when i first heard of it. I was holding off on the 3 just because of the forth coming 4. Then I saw the price and if wt(F) wasn't appropriate enough for that, the warranty... i mean common Spectrapure. Their brand loyalty from me took a nose dive after that.

I had the same reaction. I have always used Spectrapure for my RODI but will going to something else when I am out most likely. Not sue I am getting any extra value when purchasing a Spectrapure Select membrane over the standard filmtech 75 gpd membrane.

I also have a system at work not sure what we will do there.

 

[RobB'z Reef]

I use their liquid level senors for auto top off of my ATO. I like most of their products tbh. But this was just a huge swing and a miss for them. The 3 was still a stretch at the price it was. But say you didn't have a controller or didn't want to over use your current one for control I could get maybe spending the $500+ it still cost you. But with the 4 you're almost flirting with $800. For what? The value isn't there in those pumps at $250.... No stepper motors, no precision control needed anyhow for that application. Just don't see it. With the warranty it now joins the ranks of over priced reef garbage in my book.