Discussion in 'Fish Disease Treatment and Diagnosis' started by Humblefish, Sep 11, 2015.
@Humblefish Can I use Seachem ParaGuard instead of formalin? It says it is a safe alternative?
I'm thinking this is what I'll have for my medicine cabinet. Is this good, anything unnecessary or missing?
Seachem Garlic Guard
So is this up to date? Or has things changed? Want to ensure I have the correct info to place my orders.
Some expects should chime in, but here’s my take:
Seachem Prime - Good
Seachem Cupramine - I’d swap for Copper Power
Seachem Paraguard - I use it in place of formalin, but I know some others don’t like it
Seachem Metroplex - Good
Seachem Kanaplex - Good
Seachem Focus - Good
Seachem Garlic Guard - Questionable, but may help with picky eaters
Prazipro - I’d replace with API General Cure, as it’s less likely to cause a bacterial bloom / oxygen issue
I’d also add API Furan-2 and methylene blue to the list of must-haves.
And if you want more completeness, you can get API Fungus Cure (or Ruby Reef Rally or Acriflavine-MS) for acriflavine and Thomas Labs Fish Bendazole for fenbendazole.
Ok have the following in my cart for amazon prime. Anything I am missing?
Seachem MetroPlex and Focus
API General Cure
Copper Power Blue
Going to order a hanna copper tester as well. Want to get first QT setup this week while I wait for the replacement tank to arrive from waterbox. Do I use the sock that comes with them? I know to remove the carbon. I have the bio balls in my main sump already.
I would add Seachem KanaPlex to use along with the Furan-2. I’d also have some methylene blue on hand.
Most folks would probably suggest having some formalin and malachite green as well, like Quick Cure. I opt to use Seachem ParaGuard as an alternative. You may want to hear more from experts on this before committing to either.
@Humblefish. What do you think of the new regulations regarding the need for a veterinary prescription for antibiotics? Another reminded - if you 'stock' these things - make sure you check the expiration dates.
For the methylene blue what are folks recommending? I have added the mentioned items but not this one yet.
First I want to say great thread, and thanks to everyone for the contributions, especially @Humblefish.
I'm wondering if it's safe to use GC or PraziPro while treating my QT with CP. Thanks in advance, and sorry if this was already answered somewhere.
I guess I will put my 2 cents in.
I found the only real issues I have had these three things helped. I got them at Everything Aquatics:
General Trio powder
I also have focus on hand and metro just in case I need to add to food.
Here’s a good overview:
You can go with something like Fritz or Kordon as brands.
Ok added the Blue so guess that should cover me.
Now just need to figure out what the best process will be. Hope to have some CP on the way.
To me it seems like CP is the way to go if you can get your hands on it and only use copper if you have to. 2nd tank will arrive on Friday so will have two tanks total. I seen where it was mentioned 14 days in tank one then on to take 2. But the posts got confusing.
I have not personally used CP. My understanding is that you should avoid its use with wrasses, anthias, hippo tangs, and seahorses. Apparently, you also need to find a very pure source, which is really only attainable via a prescription.
I’m not quite sure what the difference is between a pure source and just using more of a less pure source, but I suspect it has to do with not knowing how impure the alternative source is. Could also have to do with what the impurities are.
Copper Power seems to well-tolerated by most fish, although some have had issues with copper and sensitive angels and mandarins.
The problem with using CP that is not pure is that you wont know how much you're actually dosing. With that said, it's not that hard to get a prescription for this stuff anymore. I called a bunch of vets, explained the situation, and eventually after 4 or 5 calls got a vet that was willing to write an rx for $30. Worth it in my opinion, as it's better than working with copper.
Can anyone help me out with some European alternatives,
I’m looking online ( lfs/ amazon/ ebay etc)
And it appears that general cure/ Kanaplex/ metro/ focus are only available in The US.
Most I can find here is myxazin ( contains Acriflavine and malachite green)
Meth blue and some formalin for koi (10%?)
No triple sulfa or furan 2
They are available on amazon.com but not to Ireland
Any ideas/ alternatives? Trying to build my medicine cabinet
Found these at Marine Depot..
Does anyone have any experience with these?
I have those from prodibio, but have not tried them yet. Let us know how they work if you get some.
Are ingredients listed?
Sounds...interesting. A bacterial concoction cure-all
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