Discussion in 'Fish Disease Treatment and Diagnosis' started by Humblefish, Sep 11, 2015.
I'll do that. Thank you!
Sorry if this was covered in an earlier post, what would be some good meds to keep on hand that could be used in the DT that will not harm invertebrates (like shrimp, crabs, etc.)?
This is actually the perfect article as I'm trying to stock my fish medicine cabinet atm. I'm planning on having cupramine, prazipro, and one of the formalin products. I can't seem to find anywhere that stocks formalin ms so I'm thinking of going with ich x. I noticed that there is the plain old ich x and then also a saltwater version. Wondering which would be better? And am I covering most of the parasites and infections with those three products? Thanks!!
I have no experience with formaldehyde products (and not a fan of having a highly toxic/potentially carcinogenic chemical lying around) but I personally just acquired copper power (which is chelated) rather than continuing to use cupramine - which I've had some issues with. It has a wider therapeutic index and I will be using it the the high range Hanna checker.
The other med people often use is metronidazole. I think that prazi is probably more useful overall since flukes are more common and praziquantel is better for internal worms which I'd imagine are more common than the internal anaerobic protists that metronidazole targets, but probably best to have both to be on safe side.
Good to know. Thanks o much for your reply. I’ll do a little more research and definitely look into those meds you mentioned. Thanks!!
I forgot to mention that a lot of people keep antibiotics on hand too just in case such as furan or kanamycin (kanaplex) in case they get bacterial infections so consider those as well, although I haven't yet had to use any of them.
I'm starting to accumulate quite a collection:
What a collection. I like the organization of the box. Is that a tackle box
It's a generic organization box. Got the idea from @Terence in his huge build thread.
I see they have a whole collection of stackables called "PACKOUT".
Just make sure to keep the meds in date. I found some cleaning out mine from 2014. Hahahaha
Just ordered my main meds to have on hand for a bunch of fish hoping to get soon.
so that means i can use CP+Furan 2 and prime? i currently have a tang with velvet, after a freshwater dip and a formalin bath i put it a tank with CP and some prime. is it okay if i add furan 2?
I'm printing this out, laminating it, and placing it with my quarantine supplies. THANK YOU!
im getting ready to stock my new system (130g) with probably around 12 fish. i have 4 QT tanks, 1-20g long, 2-10g and 1-5g. i plan on doing 2-3 fish at a time using cupramine in the 20g (i have a hanna copper checker) I've always done TTM, prazipro and formaline baths. i also have API melafix, and API E.M erythromycin. Is there anything else i should have? I've read that fish sometimes get bacterial infections when using copper and both the melafix and erythromycin are for bacterial infection/disease so i think im good to go
I'd recommend keeping a stronger antibiotic on hand, like one of the meds listed at the top here: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/antibiotics.283711/
I also recommend Seachem Metroplex (for treating brook + uronema) and API General Cure (for treating intestinal worms/internal flagellates). You'll also need Seachem Focus to bind the latter to food.
awesome so without playing mad scientist if i did copper, then prazipro then formaline dips and kept AAP Spectrogram on hand incase a bacterial infection popped up i should have all my bases covered right.?
For the most part. A 45 min formalin bath should clear brook/uronema (two parasites copper does not treat). But dosing metro every 48 hrs a few times in a QT is a good insurance policy.
thank you, i appreciate your advise
With the medication that is mentioned in this thread, how do you know what can be mixed with what? Don't know if a mixture is toxic for the fish.
Generally speaking, you can mix copper (or Chloroquine) with most antibiotics. You can also combine a dewormer such as praziquantel with copper/Chloroquine. The one caveat is Prazipro which can cause a bacterial bloom (cloudy water) when mixed with other meds due to the Oxybispropanol it contains.
The real danger is how many medications you dump on a fish all at once. Remember, every med you dose into the water gets filtered by a fish's liver & kidneys. Having to filter too many meds at one time can damage these internal organs. This is why I advocate only one med at a time, unless faced with an emergency situation (i.e. battling multiple diseases).
Would you start with copper or chloroquine and the wait to see if any other meds are need?
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