Medications to keep on hand

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  1. Humblefish

    Humblefish Valuable Member R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Expert Contributor Moderator Emeritus

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    Yes, because velvet and other parasites are so rampant nowadays. However, I would also deworm the fish (using prazi) either before or after copper treatment.
     
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    If QT for 6 weeks how long should the copper or Chloroquine(I have both) be in the water before running carbon and then adding Prazi? Also GC has prazi in it will that work?
     
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    4 weeks if using just one QT

    Yes
     
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    After QT period is over, what process do you suggest to acclimate QT inhabitant for the DT? Is there a freshwater dip involved in QT process at all?
     
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    Forgive me if its answered already but does Seachem Focus do anything as a stand alone medication or is it really only a binding agent to supplement other food medications?

    The Seachem site (link above) describes it as, "Antibacterial polymer for internal infections of fish. Use alone or mixed with other medications to make them palatable to fish and greatly reduce the loss of medication to the water through diffusion. Treats fungal and bacterial infections."

    A quick search without a reference check defines the differences as, "Antibiotics are the chemical or physical agent produced naturally or artificially capable of inhibiting and killing the growing microorganisms, but antibacterial substances only work against the bacteria and these antibacterial compounds rather killing those harmful bacteria just help in slowing down their activities. It will not be wrong to say that ‘all antibiotics are antibacterial, but all antibacterial is not antibiotics.’"

    I guess I'm asking is an antibacterial useful for anything in this hobby that any of you might know about. Just a thought but this might be useful to add to one of these awesome stickies if appropriate. ;)

    (@Humblefish )
     
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    I'll let others correct me if I'm wrong but...
    1. When starting QT, I match SG to the source water the fish is coming in. As I do WC's, I slowly increase salinity to the DT. When its time to transfer, you can then just transfer without needing to acclimate as parameters should be same/very close. (For ultra sensitive fish, you might want to ensure they're not pH sensitive or something before doing this.)
    2. FW dips are meant to relieve a fish from an external parasite outbreak. Ultimately, you should treat the fish for any external parasites, whether prophylactically or in response to a finding, before it can "graduate" to the DT. So I guess the answer would be only FW dip on an as-needed basis.
     
  7. Humblefish

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    The "antibacterial polymer" found in Seachem Focus probably helps prevent internal infections from developing. After all, worms eating away at a fish's intestines leave little bite marks which are just ripe for infection.
     
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    when mixing metro/focus with food
    metro directions say 1 tablespoon of food, 1 scoop of metro
    focus says 5:1 ratio by volume
    so does that mean 1 tablespoon of food, 1 scoop of metro and 5 scoops of focus or the other way around 5 scoops of metro and 1 scoop of focus
    thanks
     
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    @Humblefish. Have you ever seen this. Ordering meds to keep on hand and it popped up.
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    I've never seen that before, but it looks like it could work based on the fact it is a copper product. It's effectiveness would depend on the type of copper and the dosing instructions.
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    I ordered a bottle, along with meds @Humblefish recommended. Velvet wiped out my tank back in September, so I don't know if I'm brave enough to use it. I'm going to try and find some more info on it:confused:
     
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    Am I covered? Is this overkill. Rebuilding my tank and do not want to be unprepared again. Waiting to hear back from vet about prescription of Choloroquine. Vet tech asked me if I would bring fish in
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    Evening #reefsquad,

    I currently have a wrasse with spinal/copper induced injury, hes just a waiting game, BUT fish have white poop as if internal parasite or what not.
    What is the mix for pre soaking food for this. Medications I have on hand for this I think are:
    Metroplex
    Focus
    Kanaplex
    Garlic guard
    Furan 2

    What is a mix for presoaking food? Thanks
     
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    @ngoodermuth would be an excellent person to chime in on this question:)
     
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    Add 1 scoop focus + 1 scoop general cure to 1 Tablespoon of prepared frozen food. Feed the food for 14 days. Sometimes it can take up to 3 weeks to fully erradicate. So if you still see white stringy poop at 14 days continue for an additional 7.

    I recommend only storing food in refrigerator after prepared for 3-5 days. Toss and make new if there are leftovers.

    You can use Metroplex instead of general cure. If you are dealing with worms you will need to use general cure.
     
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    If the intestinal parasites are possibly invading the spinal column, you’ll want to start the metroplex soaked foods sooner than later.

    If you start with the metroplex until you have a chance to hunt down the GC, and then switch- that’s fine too!
     
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    I learned my lesson after my last few threads. Amazon Prime is great and all but I’d still prefer to have what I need on hand.
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    Ok I have read so many threads on QT done forgot half of what I read.

    Never had QT setup before but wanting to do it right.

    Just ordered 2 of the waterbox 10G cubes for QT. Just not real sure how to set them up and what all meds I need to order. Tanks should arrive this week so want to get meds on order so I have them by then.

    If someone could help out that would be great.
     
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    Seems like some things have changed over time. I have two new QT tanks coming this week. First time I am setting up a QT. So want to get meds on order. Most likely use amazon but not real sure what I need to order. What is the most current recommendations?
     
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