I have a good plan and I'll be building it soon. Actually a couple plans. I wanna test several things. I'll document the build and video the results.
You and many others besides..keep at it
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I have a good plan and I'll be building it soon. Actually a couple plans. I wanna test several things. I'll document the build and video the results.
The validity of certain parts of this method has been verified by others, such as Diesel, in an earlier post.
I invite you to come onto my thread, where I will carry on posting from time to time and search, with the help of others, for the answers you seek...which we all seek
Yes, this is all true, well and documented, however, you are veering the argument away from the real point of the thread/s, which is not to point out what we already know but to see if the 2 points you mention are valid and have a basis in fact. Something I totally agree with is that this methodology needs more testing/analysis, but we are sitting at the cutting edge of reefing here.Trying to make an original, and valuable contribution to science.Both of these things can be achieved with 1) good waterflow and 2) a good skimmer.
for the pictures that you've been posting
Yes, this is all true, well and documented, however, you are veering the argument away from the real point of the thread/s, which is not to point out what we already know but to see if the 2 points you mention are valid and have a basis in fact. Something I totally agree with is that this methodology needs more testing/analysis, but we are sitting at the cutting edge of reefing here.Trying to make an original, and valuable contribution to science.
And a lot more besides
I'm going over there now...slinking with tail between his legs!I'm blowing your post up and you're still here. I thought we were going over there? lol
true story. Followingvery true. Its all new to me, but so were algae turf scrubbers and carbon dosing at one point in time, many years ago...
When I join this forum – I got a message – Welcome to the friendly forum. I have been at RC before (the multichip thread) and after that experience I decide to only write in our Swedish forum. However - I thought that this thread is very interesting so I decide to participate but the development of the thread give me feelings of to be at RC again.
Why are people like me, Thalent and Randy and others so sceptical and want to know how it works in spite of the fact that at least I haven´t test the method. (However - If I get an outbreak of dinos – I´ll sure will test.)
I can only speak for myself. I have been working with complex biological system for many years – nearly all my life. There is somethings I have learned during this journey – you have always to questioning “old trues” but you must know what you are doing and always have a self-critical point of view. I know that every time I change one parameter - I can figure out at least 5 other parameters that will change too. And very often – one week after the changes – I have discovered at least changes in 3 – 4 parameters that I even did not know about!
To be a “doer” is good – they normally change the world – but it’s important to listen to people with knowledge – either practical or theoretical knowledge – in some few cases I have noticed that I have learned thing from them
My own knowledges has been built up from an endless row of mistakes (mostly my own) together with a theoretical base and discussions with others.
As we say in Sweden - A wise guy learns from his/hers mistake – but a smart guy learns from others mistakes.
This thread can give a lot of understanding of the micro/nano bubbles but it needs participant from all in a friendly atmosphere. I grow up under the era of Love, peace and understanding – this thread seems to at least change the last world to misunderstanding it was better back in the sixties
I hope that all notice that it is a lot of in this post
Sincerely Lasse
When I join this forum – I got a message – Welcome to the friendly forum. I have been at RC before (the multichip thread) and after that experience I decide to only write in our Swedish forum. However - I thought that this thread is very interesting so I decide to participate but the development of the thread give me feelings of to be at RC again.
Why are people like me, Thalent and Randy and others so sceptical and want to know how it works in spite of the fact that at least I haven´t test the method. (However - If I get an outbreak of dinos – I´ll sure will test.)
I can only speak for myself. I have been working with complex biological system for many years – nearly all my life. There is somethings I have learned during this journey – you have always to questioning “old trues” but you must know what you are doing and always have a self-critical point of view. I know that every time I change one parameter - I can figure out at least 5 other parameters that will change too. And very often – one week after the changes – I have discovered at least changes in 3 – 4 parameters that I even did not know about!
To be a “doer” is good – they normally change the world – but it’s important to listen to people with knowledge – either practical or theoretical knowledge – in some few cases I have noticed that I have learned thing from them
My own knowledges has been built up from an endless row of mistakes (mostly my own) together with a theoretical base and discussions with others.
As we say in Sweden - A wise guy learns from his/hers mistake – but a smart guy learns from others mistakes.
This thread can give a lot of understanding of the micro/nano bubbles but it needs participant from all in a friendly atmosphere. I grow up under the era of Love, peace and understanding – this thread seems to at least change the last world to misunderstanding it was better back in the sixties
I hope that all notice that it is a lot of in this post
Sincerely Lasse
I'm not so sure the bubbles are too big. I will be building a new device and will post videos when I'm done.
When the water is milky white, I think the bubbles are smaller and the output is more. Not sure. When you look at this video, would you agree that there's way more bubbles and probably a lot smaller than the air stone method?
Randy....what do you think from a chemist point of view? I just don't know. It would appear the more white and cloudier- the smaller and more populated the bubbles are.
That design that's NOT MINE is patented.
3 others that are are pending.
This doesn't take any energy, cost under $20 to make, is ball-valve controlled, and to be quite frank I think these bubbles are smaller than the bubbles I've seen in those videos you sent. Of course the video I shot was with my I-PHONE, so of course it has focusing issues. I don't think you realize just how small these bubbles are. Not to mention my tank is in the process of getting a new deep sandbed, and the water is already cloudy. Just wait till it clears and I shoot better video with another camera and also a underwater camera.
I agree with you brother.
Join a few of us at the other thread. We just want to test and find out what works the best.
It's Squamosa's thread. Nearly the same title. See you there.
We see growth pics all the time like those in tanks that don't bubble. What would be useful would be two tanks side by side, run the same except for bubbling, and then comparison of fragments of the same corals put into the tanks at the same time.
It would seem certain commentators on this forum clearly do not understand that this thread exists here in this format, solely to share my experiences and anecdotes on a methodology that is rapidly gaining ground, particularly in my home country.
I am not trying to sell anything or force a particular style of reef keeping on anyone. What ever works for you, stick with that and comment on the relevant threads elsewhere if you so wish.
Keep an open mind here, lest you be judged by certain people but then push on full steam ahead anyway
How would you measure bubble size and density so we are comparing apples to apples?
What parameters would be interesting to be collected so we can try to have a meaningful interpretation?
Anyways, can you guys help us to brainstorm about this.