9/23/2016 - Day 138 - More Gyre, Hosting, End in Sight, and a fully operational RO/DI station
So a while back (8/4 - was it REALLY so recent?!?), I replaced a Hydor <mumble, mumble> powerhead with a MaxSpect Gyre xf150 because the Hydor kept falling off it's mount and causing issues. I had it running on a pretty basic program - 40% forward for 5min, 20% backward for 5min, repeat. That was cool - I liked to see all the different movement and the corals seemed to be happy on that side of the tank. Once I got past the initial setup problems (see earlier post), two things bugged me;
The flow couldn't reach the other side of the tank. Not without blasting it higher, which would cause my return to overflow and get noisy - which was not an option. So this resulted in me leaving in one of my two original Hydor's to cover that side of the tank. Meh. Not the end of the world, but I was looking forward to seeing The Magic Gyre in my entire tank.
The other thing that bugged me was the simplicity of the programming available. My long-term plan was (is) to get an Apex, but as that's been downgraded to "someday" (read: xmas, most likely), I was hoping to be able to get something a bit more interesting going on until them...
So, if you've been following the various gear threads, you can see what's coming next. Yup; picked up a MaxSpect Gyre xf250. TL;DR - the pumps are basically the same, but the controller included was upgraded to be fully programmable in 24hr cycles, among other things. The new gear arrived today, so I went ahead and installed it tonight. First; I'd like to recognize (and thank) MaxSpect for improving their packaging. The new pump came shipped in a metal tin and fully padded; very well packaged, in other words. This showed right away as the new pump (unlike the "old") worked right out of the box - no need to disassemble/reassemble it in order to fix things bounced out of position during shipping. Much less frustrating, for sure.
I set up both pumps on opposite ends of the tank, aimed them to ripple the surface, and moved on to the new controller. The instructions could be a bit more clear, but there are only a few buttons and dial, so I was able to sort out what's what given the shiny addition of an LCD screen. I ended up using the "Oceanic Gyre Cycle" (OCG) with the pumps at 40%. This gives me a really random-ish pattern of water flow really easily. At 40%, that gives me 5300 * .4 * 2 = 4240 GPH max flow from those two. My return pump is the (omg quiet!) Vectra L1; which is running about 80% power, but 50% of that is diverted back into the Carbon/GFO and fuge via my manifold and doesn't really contribute to flow in the DT. So 3100 * .8 * .5 = 1,240 GPH. Rounding off, that gives me about 5,500 GPH of flow peak in a 108gal tank. Total peak system flow is 6,800 GPH for a ~150gal volume. Those are peak numbers, however. Best I can tell, the gyres spend relatively little time running full, so my average tank flow is likely a bit lower than that. This is certainly a pretty big shift, so I'll be sure to keep a close eye on the tank over the weekend (and beyond, of course) and may adjust the max flow out of the gyres down if needed; I can't imagine needing to go up...
One immediate result of the change was actually this:
Hosting! I'd never seen Marvin show even slight interest in hosting any of my four nems. The closest I'd seen was that he would zoom in close to one of the rock nems, but that was usually right after a feeding and I figured he was just snatching up a snack. But within minutes of the new gyre coming on, he dove into the "larger" of my two BTA's faster than my two-year-old decides to ride the ponies at our farmer's market (so - quick, is what I'm saying). As you can tell from the vid, he's actually too large to fit still, but that doesn't seem to bother either of them...
Not really sure what this means, actually... Guessing that he got spooked by all the new flow and the instincts kicked in? And once there, it was like an unexpectedly comfortable hotel bed? Whatever it is, he seems happy. Now just need the BTA to grow a bit so that Meridah can fit in too. Or else the one next to it to open up (you can see it in the photo in my last post) so she can have a pillow too...
Aside from all that fun stuff, I'm nearing the end of our QT run. Woot!
Here are a few shots of the final tank transfer, which occurred a few days ago. Things start off by doing a minor (8-9gal) water extraction from the DT. Here I am pumping in new saltwater from the garage. I've since added a shut-off valve to the outlet (and also extended the hose so I don't even have to roll the mixing bin closer any more). And hey - FTS bonus. Sorry the sump is dark; I was juggling many things and just snapped this off with the phone...
Once I've got the water extracted, it goes into my new QT Tank. I've got two sets of everything that goes into the QT - powerhead, heater, plumbing scape, and temp and ammonia meters.
I've learned to keep the old tank on the right to make draining it into the sink easier. I also now use the red colander to the left of the pic to pull the fish out - much easier/better for them than the net I used to use. And you can barely tell in this photo, but I write out all my key QT events (med additions, tank moves, etc.) on each tank with sharpie. It's kind of a pain to transfer all that over during the TTM, but better that than loose info I might need. And it cleans right off with a quick swipe from a Magic Eraser.
The QT crew is doing well. I lost the 2nd cardinal on the first day, but Gillian "Orange Chicken" (mandarin), Statler (hawkfish), and the as-yet-unnamed Baggai Cardinal have all handled the tank moves and QT time like champs. The plan is to given them another week in the final tank (for a 1 month total) and then move them over into the DT. I'm running low on the frozen copepods and we've got a four-day trip coming up mid-October, so I want to give them time to settle into the tank and make sure that Gillian will be able to find food. I've been seeding the DT for weeks now with various live pods, so I think he should be fine once he settles in. If not, I'll pick up a few bottles to pour in before we leave (and/or sooner if needed) and figure out a long-term plan when we get back. Everyone else will just get fed really well the days leading up to the trip. Only other thing to add will be a security cam pointed at the tank (or a temporary baby cam, at the least).
Only other thing that's really changed has been additions to the RO/DI system. I don't like wasting water, so my system is set up like a grey-water system (in that the RO/DI and "waste" water are both captured and stored). Obviously the waste tank fills up faster, and while both tanks have float switches to prevent an overfill, when the waste tank fills, the whole system backs up and nothing good happens. So the recent addition was to add a second auto-shutoff. The BRS kit came with one, which I plumbed (according to the instructions) into the RO/DI water line. Which was nice; except that I've yet to ever fill that tank, so it's never done a thing for me. The second one is now on the waste line, so now when the waste tank fills up, the whole system shuts down. As my system also includes a booster pump, I also picked up a second pressure switch - which was added to the waste line to complement the one on my RO/DI line. And because why not, I also picked up the auto-flush controller.
The net result of all of these changes are that I can now, in theory, just turn the booster pump on and open the valve, and the system will run until one tank or the other fills up, then shut itself down. If it's the RO/DI tank that's full, then it will keep itself topped off as the tank pulls it's ATO in. I'll still have to drain the waste barrel from time to time, but that's no big deal - we use that water to fill the kiddie pool and/or water the front lawn (CA has a tongue-in-cheek motto of "brown is the new green", so we let our grass die way back months ago - this water just keeps the roots alive). I still have to monitor the resin and other such filters, but the auto-flush should help those last longer and the system is easy to keep an eye on (high traffic area of the garage), so I'm not overly worried about forgetting to do that.
I'm likely going to sit tight on any major things until we get back from our trip. I keep mounting frags every so often (I have lots to mount), so at some point I'll get some new/better pics than I've been providing. I test my numbers nearly every night... Okay; call it every other night, usually. I'm getting all the dosing dialed in; alk, cal, mag, and nitrates. The fuge is working great, so of course I'm starting to think about V3... And there's still the pull-out power-bar/shelving to build to clean up my under-cabinet mess...
So a while back (8/4 - was it REALLY so recent?!?), I replaced a Hydor <mumble, mumble> powerhead with a MaxSpect Gyre xf150 because the Hydor kept falling off it's mount and causing issues. I had it running on a pretty basic program - 40% forward for 5min, 20% backward for 5min, repeat. That was cool - I liked to see all the different movement and the corals seemed to be happy on that side of the tank. Once I got past the initial setup problems (see earlier post), two things bugged me;
The flow couldn't reach the other side of the tank. Not without blasting it higher, which would cause my return to overflow and get noisy - which was not an option. So this resulted in me leaving in one of my two original Hydor's to cover that side of the tank. Meh. Not the end of the world, but I was looking forward to seeing The Magic Gyre in my entire tank.
The other thing that bugged me was the simplicity of the programming available. My long-term plan was (is) to get an Apex, but as that's been downgraded to "someday" (read: xmas, most likely), I was hoping to be able to get something a bit more interesting going on until them...
So, if you've been following the various gear threads, you can see what's coming next. Yup; picked up a MaxSpect Gyre xf250. TL;DR - the pumps are basically the same, but the controller included was upgraded to be fully programmable in 24hr cycles, among other things. The new gear arrived today, so I went ahead and installed it tonight. First; I'd like to recognize (and thank) MaxSpect for improving their packaging. The new pump came shipped in a metal tin and fully padded; very well packaged, in other words. This showed right away as the new pump (unlike the "old") worked right out of the box - no need to disassemble/reassemble it in order to fix things bounced out of position during shipping. Much less frustrating, for sure.
I set up both pumps on opposite ends of the tank, aimed them to ripple the surface, and moved on to the new controller. The instructions could be a bit more clear, but there are only a few buttons and dial, so I was able to sort out what's what given the shiny addition of an LCD screen. I ended up using the "Oceanic Gyre Cycle" (OCG) with the pumps at 40%. This gives me a really random-ish pattern of water flow really easily. At 40%, that gives me 5300 * .4 * 2 = 4240 GPH max flow from those two. My return pump is the (omg quiet!) Vectra L1; which is running about 80% power, but 50% of that is diverted back into the Carbon/GFO and fuge via my manifold and doesn't really contribute to flow in the DT. So 3100 * .8 * .5 = 1,240 GPH. Rounding off, that gives me about 5,500 GPH of flow peak in a 108gal tank. Total peak system flow is 6,800 GPH for a ~150gal volume. Those are peak numbers, however. Best I can tell, the gyres spend relatively little time running full, so my average tank flow is likely a bit lower than that. This is certainly a pretty big shift, so I'll be sure to keep a close eye on the tank over the weekend (and beyond, of course) and may adjust the max flow out of the gyres down if needed; I can't imagine needing to go up...
One immediate result of the change was actually this:
Hosting! I'd never seen Marvin show even slight interest in hosting any of my four nems. The closest I'd seen was that he would zoom in close to one of the rock nems, but that was usually right after a feeding and I figured he was just snatching up a snack. But within minutes of the new gyre coming on, he dove into the "larger" of my two BTA's faster than my two-year-old decides to ride the ponies at our farmer's market (so - quick, is what I'm saying). As you can tell from the vid, he's actually too large to fit still, but that doesn't seem to bother either of them...
Not really sure what this means, actually... Guessing that he got spooked by all the new flow and the instincts kicked in? And once there, it was like an unexpectedly comfortable hotel bed? Whatever it is, he seems happy. Now just need the BTA to grow a bit so that Meridah can fit in too. Or else the one next to it to open up (you can see it in the photo in my last post) so she can have a pillow too...
Aside from all that fun stuff, I'm nearing the end of our QT run. Woot!
Here are a few shots of the final tank transfer, which occurred a few days ago. Things start off by doing a minor (8-9gal) water extraction from the DT. Here I am pumping in new saltwater from the garage. I've since added a shut-off valve to the outlet (and also extended the hose so I don't even have to roll the mixing bin closer any more). And hey - FTS bonus. Sorry the sump is dark; I was juggling many things and just snapped this off with the phone...
Once I've got the water extracted, it goes into my new QT Tank. I've got two sets of everything that goes into the QT - powerhead, heater, plumbing scape, and temp and ammonia meters.
I've learned to keep the old tank on the right to make draining it into the sink easier. I also now use the red colander to the left of the pic to pull the fish out - much easier/better for them than the net I used to use. And you can barely tell in this photo, but I write out all my key QT events (med additions, tank moves, etc.) on each tank with sharpie. It's kind of a pain to transfer all that over during the TTM, but better that than loose info I might need. And it cleans right off with a quick swipe from a Magic Eraser.
The QT crew is doing well. I lost the 2nd cardinal on the first day, but Gillian "Orange Chicken" (mandarin), Statler (hawkfish), and the as-yet-unnamed Baggai Cardinal have all handled the tank moves and QT time like champs. The plan is to given them another week in the final tank (for a 1 month total) and then move them over into the DT. I'm running low on the frozen copepods and we've got a four-day trip coming up mid-October, so I want to give them time to settle into the tank and make sure that Gillian will be able to find food. I've been seeding the DT for weeks now with various live pods, so I think he should be fine once he settles in. If not, I'll pick up a few bottles to pour in before we leave (and/or sooner if needed) and figure out a long-term plan when we get back. Everyone else will just get fed really well the days leading up to the trip. Only other thing to add will be a security cam pointed at the tank (or a temporary baby cam, at the least).
Only other thing that's really changed has been additions to the RO/DI system. I don't like wasting water, so my system is set up like a grey-water system (in that the RO/DI and "waste" water are both captured and stored). Obviously the waste tank fills up faster, and while both tanks have float switches to prevent an overfill, when the waste tank fills, the whole system backs up and nothing good happens. So the recent addition was to add a second auto-shutoff. The BRS kit came with one, which I plumbed (according to the instructions) into the RO/DI water line. Which was nice; except that I've yet to ever fill that tank, so it's never done a thing for me. The second one is now on the waste line, so now when the waste tank fills up, the whole system shuts down. As my system also includes a booster pump, I also picked up a second pressure switch - which was added to the waste line to complement the one on my RO/DI line. And because why not, I also picked up the auto-flush controller.
The net result of all of these changes are that I can now, in theory, just turn the booster pump on and open the valve, and the system will run until one tank or the other fills up, then shut itself down. If it's the RO/DI tank that's full, then it will keep itself topped off as the tank pulls it's ATO in. I'll still have to drain the waste barrel from time to time, but that's no big deal - we use that water to fill the kiddie pool and/or water the front lawn (CA has a tongue-in-cheek motto of "brown is the new green", so we let our grass die way back months ago - this water just keeps the roots alive). I still have to monitor the resin and other such filters, but the auto-flush should help those last longer and the system is easy to keep an eye on (high traffic area of the garage), so I'm not overly worried about forgetting to do that.
I'm likely going to sit tight on any major things until we get back from our trip. I keep mounting frags every so often (I have lots to mount), so at some point I'll get some new/better pics than I've been providing. I test my numbers nearly every night... Okay; call it every other night, usually. I'm getting all the dosing dialed in; alk, cal, mag, and nitrates. The fuge is working great, so of course I'm starting to think about V3... And there's still the pull-out power-bar/shelving to build to clean up my under-cabinet mess...