Mixing Elements and Minerals?

co3(2-) · Jan 4, 2022

Hello I am making a DIY mineral solution and wonder if the following can be mixed into one solution without reaction or oxidization?

If not my thought was to put the manganese, zinc, iron, cobalt, chromium and rubidium in one solution. Sodium Nitrate and Phosphate into into its own and finally leave Iodine in its own solution?

TIA

Manganese

Zinc

Iron

Potassium Iodine

Cobalt

Chromium

Sodium Nitrate

Monosodium Phosphate

Rubidium Chloride

MnFish1 · Jan 5, 2022

@Randy Holmes-Farley

co3(2-) · Jan 5, 2022

Thanks for the Bump, One more Vanadium.

Okay it looks like Seachem mixes the trace into a single product called Reef Trace so looks to be okay from that perspective, though not sure how they came up with the ratios to be one size fits all unless the concentrations are so low they they are precipitated, consumed or skimmed on any scale before they become an issue. However can this be combined with Nitrate and Phosphate? Assuming that Iodine is reactive and probably should not be mixed in?

Reef Trace supplies a broad range of trace elements demonstrated to be necessary for proper reef health and growth. Trace elements are normally depleted by utilization, oxidation and precipitation. The latter two processes occur more rapidly than with other micronutrients. This makes it important to restore trace elements on a regular basis. Reef Trace may be used alone or in conjunction with Reef Plus. Best results are obtained when both are used. Reef Trace is nitrate/phosphate free. Guaranteed Analysis (Amounts per 1 g), Boron (B)…… 0.028 mg, Cobalt (Co)…… 0.0003 mg, Copper (Cu)…… 0.032 mg, Manganese (Mn)…… 0.085 mg, Molybdenum (Mo)…… 0.003 mg, Zinc (Zn)…… 0.169 mg, Rubidium (Rb)…… 0.00008 mg, Nickel (Ni)…… 0.00003 mg, Vanadium (V)…… 0.00002 mg

Randy Holmes-Farley · Jan 6, 2022

With almost no exception, you are not dosing elements. Iodine as I2 (not recommended, IMO), is perhaps the only pure element that people dose.

Combining certain trace elements is not recommended, depending on the form used, but many can be mixed.

Don't combine them with alk supplements, in general.

Beyond that, you'd need to indicate what it is you are actually using for, say, manganese.

co3(2-) · Jan 6, 2022

Thank you Randy, These are what i had in mind:

Manganese Chloride
Zinc chloride
iron (fergon tablets)
Vanadium Oxide
Cobalt Chloride Hexahydrate
Chromium Chloride Hexahydrate
Rubidium Chloride
sodium nitrate
monosodium phosphate

Randy Holmes-Farley · Jan 7, 2022

co3(2-) said:
Thank you Randy, These are what i had in mind:

Manganese Chloride
Zinc chloride
iron (fergon tablets)
Vanadium Oxide
Cobalt Chloride Hexahydrate
Chromium Chloride Hexahydrate
Rubidium Chloride
sodium nitrate
monosodium phosphate

Some of these are not identified well enough for me to know what might ahppen. For example, this is a copy and past from wikipedia:

Vanadium oxide may refer to:

Vanadium(II) oxide (vanadium monoxide), VO
Vanadium(III) oxide (vanadium sesquioxide or trioxide), V2O3
Vanadium(IV) oxide (vanadium dioxide), VO2
Vanadium(V) oxide (vanadium pentoxide), V2O5

Do you have a more detailed name for these:

Manganese Chloride
Vanadium Oxide
Cobalt Chloride Hexahydrate
Chromium Chloride Hexahydrate

co3(2-) · Jan 7, 2022

Name	Description	formula
Manganese	HiMedia GRM685-500G Manganese (II) Chloride Tetrahydrate, Extra Pure, 500 g	MnCl₂
Vanadium	Vanadium (V) Oxide, 99.92%, Analytical Reagent (ACS), 70 g	V2O5
Cobalt	Cobalt Chloride Hexahydrate, 98-102%, 500g	CoCl2 · 6H2O
Chromium	HiMedia GRM6386-500G Chromium Chloride Hexahydrate, USP, 500 g	Cl3CrH12O6

co3(2-) · Jan 16, 2022

co3(2-) said:
Name Description formula
Manganese HiMedia GRM685-500G Manganese (II) Chloride Tetrahydrate, Extra Pure, 500 g MnCl₂
Vanadium Vanadium (V) Oxide, 99.92%, Analytical Reagent (ACS), 70 g V2O5
Cobalt Cobalt Chloride Hexahydrate, 98-102%, 500g CoCl2 · 6H2O
Chromium HiMedia GRM6386-500G Chromium Chloride Hexahydrate, USP, 500 g Cl3CrH12O6