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I have started and stopped 2-3 reef tanks over the last 10 years. Always because I am moving, or trying to do it in a living situation that is not conducive to running a reef tank properly. Each time I feel like I learn from my mistakes and improve a bit. This was my last tank which was running ok until I went on vacation: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/swiss1939s-second-reef-attempt-rsr-170.717921/ It crashed and then I moved during COVID so I paused on reef tanks for years again.

What I feel like I've learned from this second attempt is that while I was more patient than the first time, and I had all the equipment necessary to run the tank well, I was trying to intervene too much and wasn't letting the tank stabilize on its own before really intervening when necessary. I also was still not as patient as I should have been with stocking corals.

I have recently moved cross country to be near family, and finally gotten out of NYC. I again am in a sort of temporary housing situation as I am renting a house for a year, but plan on buying a permanent place after my lease is up here. So I am starting up the reef tank obsession again, but due to the temporary rental situation, I know that whatever tank I set up will have to come down again in a year. This leads me to using this year strategically by starting a smaller tank which I intend to allow to mature with only minimal fish in order to seed the rock and get the biological filtration and corraline algae started on my rock that I plan on using in the final tank build I'll start in the house that I buy next year.

This tank will be a FOWLR tank for this year, and since I will let it mature slowly over the next year, I took the chance to make my own oystercrete rock for the tank. I have been wanting to do that since the last tank build, but had to wait 5 years until I was in a better location to start up the hobby again.

I was originally planning on this FOWLR tank being built using a Mr. Aqua 22 gal long bookshelf tank, cause I love the widescreen format of low and long tanks, but this plan has changed by chance. I was looking at Petco's rip-off Mr. Aqua 22 gal long tanks because the Mr. Aqua tanks are out of stock everywhere. I know they don't stock those tanks in stores, only selling online, but I decided to take a trip to the local Petco just to look around at what tanks they had. While there, I noticed they were having a 50% sale on all open-glass tanks (through July 6, 2025). I don't particularly like old school plastic frame glass tanks like the cheap Imagitarium tanks they sell, but I couldn't resist considering them. One 20 gal long left, and a bunch of 40 and 60 gal breeder tanks. I was considering a 40 gal breeder for $75, but it just didn't feel right as I want to keep this tank size manageable while being big enough for a decent amount of rock to mature in it. I ended up saying screw it and buying the 20 gal long for $35, plus the metal tank stand that it fits on (which was not on sale) for $99. Total cost for tank and stand was $145. Half what just the Mr. Aqua 22 gal long low iron glass tank I was originally considering costs.

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As a result, this boring FOWLR tank with a slow build pace is also becoming a low budget build!

I have made approx 75-100 lbs of oystercrete rock for a fraction of the price of the off the shelf dry rock.

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Oystercrete rock materials used include:

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Home Depot purchases:
94 lbs bag of portland cement - $13.88 - https://www.homedepot.com/p/94-lb-Portland-Cement-112494/100570364
40 lbs bag of morton water softener salt rock - $8.98 - https://www.homedepot.com/p/Morton-...Salt-Pellets-Clean-and-Protect-1500/100089553
8 qt bag of miracle grow perlite - $5.97 - https://www.homedepot.com/p/Miracle-Gro-8-qt-Perlite-Soil-74278430/204502291
2x50 lbs bags of Play Sand (used for casting the rock in plastic bins I already owned) - $9.74 - https://www.homedepot.com/p/Quikrete-50-lb-Premium-Play-Sand-111351/100318476

I didn't purchase the perlite specifically for this (had a bag lying around unused), and only used it for a few later pieces. I will always use it in the future.

Tractor Supply purchase:
50 lbs bag of Crushed Oyster Shells - $17.49 - https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/manna-pro-oyster-shell-50-lb

I have barely used any of the bag of cement and about 50%-70% of the bag of crushed oyster shells after making about 75-100 lbs of rock. I could make a crazy amount of rock with one or two more bags of oyster shells and perlite.

Total cost for this rock (which in the end will probably end up making about 150 lbs of rock just from the first bag of oyster shells and perlite): $56.06

The current running tally on this build is $201.06 for the tank, stand and rock.

Next step is to prep the rock in a plastic bin of freshwater to get rid of all the silicates and keep the pH from spiking in the tank. The rock will spend the next 6 weeks with a pond pump circulating freshwater through it all with weekly water changes (except for two weeks vacation in Ireland for the second half of June) in a plastic bin. Once the 6 weeks is up, I'll then rinse the same rock in the plastic bin with salt water for two weeks. Once that is done, then I'll fill the tank with salt water and sand and officially start the tank with rock in it.

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The first bunch of rock was dried for about 4-5 days in the sun, and has been sitting in freshwater for about 5 days with 2 full water replacements. Still lots of silicates coming off the rocks. A few more rocks have been made and are drying in the sun waiting to join the rinse. I'll probably make a couple more batches of rock just to have more than enough with some variety sizes and shapes to choose from. Any rock that doesn't fit in this tank will end up cycling in a plastic bin in the garage, in which case I'll probably create a bunch more rock to fill that plastic bin and have plenty of seeded rock for my final tank build. Any unused seeded rock, once the final tank has been built, I'll trade or sell off next year.

My ultimate goal with this tank is to add life to the rock by dumping a bunch of copepod/isopod bottles and corraline algae seeding bottles into the tank, and let it exist with power heads for a few months to stabilize with a single fish in it for the first 6 months, then over the remaining 6 months slowly add a few other fish just to get the biological filtration to handle a larger biological load. I won't be concerned with algae, but am hoping that over the year any and all algae blooms will work themselves out and begin to stabilize by the time I'm ready to purchase a house.

It will be a very boring build with minimal updates, as this tank is really just a glorified rock seeding/curing barrel, instead of only doing it in a large plastic bin in my garage. This way I can at least have one fish to entertain myself.
 
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Do you have an idea about what fish you are wanting to put in your tank?
 
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7 week update:

DIY Rock was washed in an HDX bin in my garage for 6 weeks, 2 of those I was in Ireland on summer vacation, so the water was not changed during that time. I didn't do it every few days even when around. I did it maybe every 5 days with a few changes daily here and there. Now the rock has been washing in salt water for a week. I am testing PH and it still seems a bit high, but I'm using not precise salifert ph test kits that you match the color to the card. I did order a cheapo digital ph meter, but somehow I accidentally threw it away when I threw out my canister filter cardboard box. So I had to order another one, $15x2 or $30!

Lots of silicates on the water surface, not sure if its still from the rock, or if its just from the air in my garage after 5 days of opening and closing the garage.

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Tank is finally up and filled. Was waiting to check with landlord, and I got approval from the landlord to have a 20 gal tank. Continuing the cheap build idea, I bought a Vevor canister filter (1500l/h) meant for up to 120 gal tanks. It has an integrated UV light so I figured that would help reduce any major issues with the FOWLR tank. It was like $80 or so. If it breaks after 6 mos, it was worth it to get started.

Vevor 1500 L/hr 4 Stage Canister Filter with UV light

I also ordered a cheap 4 stage RO/DI unit on amazon just to get started cause I tested my tapwater at like 350 ppm. Again, decided to just try the cheap RO/DI vs the expensive BRS ones (which seem to have gotten way more expensive than I remembered 5 years ago). It was about $70.

Aquatic Life RO Buddie 4 Stage RO/DI 50GPD

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Lastly, I went ahead and ordered 8 lbs of base live rock from TBS a week or two ago for overnight UPS shipping today. $103 w/shipping. Arrived today!

In prep for live rock arriving today, I double checked with landlord to ensure I was allowed to set up 20 gal fish tank. Approved! So I set the tank up two nights ago and filled with RO/DI water which tested at 0ppm. Also set up the vevor canister filter and spent some time tuning the flow of it to remove any air from the system and got it running absolute silent!

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Then yesterday I spent the day adding HW Marinemix salt to get the water to 1.025. HW Marinemix I got on 4th of July sale at BRS a big box for about 160 gal of water mixed. $66.

Today the rock arrived around 10am. So I put all 8 lbs into the 20 gal tank. I'll leave it in there for the time being to get this tank going and see what tiny organisms came with it. Once I feel a little more comfortable with the DIY rock, I'll start adding it to this tank. I wanted to add some of the TBS rock to my HDX bin in the garage, but garage has no AC and in Florida summer, its like 104 degrees in there during the day, and 80 at night. So I figure I can't really seed the DIY rock in the garage cause it will probably kill all the good bacteria and any organisms on this TBS rock. I'll try to get as much of it into this tank as possible.. but I also went back a few weeks ago to petco and bought two more tanks. Two 10 gal standard tanks cause they were half off, or something like $30 for both. So I may use those to seed some of the DIY rock as well. My main goal for the two 10 gal tanks was to try to eventually start breeding clowns and raising fry. That will be a while away, so those tanks are available for live rock seeding in the meantime.

I think I'll go to the LFS in the next couple of days and get my first clownfish of this tank to start! Hitchhikers i've seen on the TBS rock... brittle star, i think a bunch of feather duster tubes, and some macro algae, sponges and the desirable corraline algae! Doubt there will be other bigger hitchhikers but who knows. I kept the water and remaining detritus in the shipping bin to see if there is anything else that washed around in the source water and fell off the rocks in transit. BTW, this will be bare bottom without sand because it is a temporary tank for about a year or so. I don't want to have to deal with removing sand when this comes down and I move again to hopefully my purchased long term house.

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Nice! I like the DIYedness (for lack of a real word).
I'm curious if the concrete causes much of an alkalinity rise and for how long.

Good luck with the project and keep up the good work...
 
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I'm curious if anyone has good suggestions for cheaper but still decent quality lighting options for this 20 gal long? suitable for FOWLR tank, with possibly softies.

No clue about the alk effects. Don't have test kits for that yet.
 
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I have noticed a small feather duster opening up after an hour or so, and all day today. Finally, the large feather duster made it's first appearance after about 6 hrs in the tank.

 
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Well this man made rock is taking quite the while to leech out in the prep wash stage. 7 weeks and ph is still high. Although I was just using tap water which tested 350 ppm. I am running an experiment to see if a few of the smaller rocks in a big tub can test normal ph in a day or two. I set aside a couple smaller rocks out of the main bin, and set up a new bin with RO/DI water. Tested the RO/DI at 7.4 ph. Added an aerator prior to testing. Then I put a few small rocks in and left them for a few hours and tested again. On the salifert test chart it was blue.. 8.6 ph. I added the pond pump along with the aeration stone/pump and will check again tomorrow.

One thing I did was try to clean the pond pump that has been washing the man made rock for the past 7 weeks. It had calcification all over it and inside it. Washing concrete man made rocks really does a number on a pump. Couldn't get it completely cleaned but I'm hoping with it much cleaner, and finally using RO/DI water to wash, the small rocks will test better soon. I'm wondering if I should break the wash up into smaller rocks in one bin and larger rocks in another bin so that I can get the smaller rocks through the cycle faster.

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Installed a cheap ATO from amazon. $50:
USEEK ATO

ATO seems like it should work fine, although its really built for a rimless tank. The plastic tube holder isn't wide enough to fit over the tank rim, hence some cable ties holding it to the canister pump inlet hose. Also the ato sensor wire prevents me from really positioning the sensor at the precise height for my tanks fill level cause of the top tank rim again. I'll have to recude the water level slightly to resolve that. The sensor cable can't make the sharp bend around the rim without pushing the sensor off the backing magnet.

Also got one of my 10 gal tanks set up now. I am going to use one for phyto culture and one for copepods for now. Until I have some clowns that are breeding.

Ordered my first light. noopsyche k7 mini - $86. I wanted to test the smaller light first before buying the k7 pro iii. I also don't need a full blown coral light right now. This should be sufficient for my FOWLR for a while.

I'm taking the budget build to heart.

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Some larvae or other thing seems to be hovering around one spot in my tank today. Never see it before. It's about 1 mm wide and had what looks like a big mouth, and is transparent enough to see a black stomach or something.

Anyone have an idea what this could be?

It seems too big to be a copepod, and I have not added any amphipods, which this looks nothing like I've seen before.

Could it be a fish larvae? It must have come from the Tampa Bay rock. All I've added since is some copepods and phyto from my LFS.

 
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Continuing on the budget build theme. NooPsyche K7 mini and a DIY light stand from pvc pipes. Rimmed tanks just don't fit with any typical light mounting hardware. Everything is designed for rimless!

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That's basically everything I need before I go get a clownfish and start. Its been up over a week and I'm starting to see some copepods and other stuff coming out of the rocks.
 

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Continuing on the budget build theme. NooPsyche K7 mini and a DIY light stand from pvc pipes. Rimmed tanks just don't fit with any typical light mounting hardware. Everything is designed for rimless!

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That's basically everything I need before I go get a clownfish and start. Its been up over a week and I'm starting to see some copepods and other stuff coming out of the rocks.
I like the light stand!!!
 

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Continuing on the budget build theme. NooPsyche K7 mini and a DIY light stand from pvc pipes. Rimmed tanks just don't fit with any typical light mounting hardware. Everything is designed for rimless!

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That's basically everything I need before I go get a clownfish and start. Its been up over a week and I'm starting to see some copepods and other stuff coming out of the rocks.
Do you have to take off and set aside the light stand to open the lid?
*also for removing the lid for maintenance?

I went with cheapie TV wall mount from Amazon and built out the rest with scrap aluminum angle I already had (for 2x AI Prime LEDs).
I like it because I can just push the lights out of the way for full tank access from above.
*in my case, tank is shoved in a nook so less obvious aesthetically

Some people bolt T-track or similar to the back of the stand and have it extend up above the tank,,, then build off of that.
 

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