Wow, interesting Toby! I have had great success with what I thought was cyano, until now, but maybe it was spirulina. In retrospect, I bet it was spirulina, as I dosed erythromycin, which should wipe out cyano, and it didn't work. ChemiClean, which I had purchased 6 months prior, then never used it for fear of adding chemicals, worked great, but now I'm thinking I may need a microscope. How do you distinguish them and what was your H2O2 regimen?
Me too!Everyone wants to know the triggers for why cyano appears, or in Salty's case, why it doesn't appear.
Thank you Lloyd. I have used lanthanum chloride in the past with great success, in fact I have a new bottle on my desk right now. I agree, that I have a imbalance. Im drawing my 20% water for my water change. I will test for nutrients just before I do the water change to get a better number.Jeffery, where did you get the liquid? I've never seen that one before. Does it state that it "does not contain erythromycin succinate"?
I agree that cyano issues, in my experience, come when I have an imbalance of PO4 to NO3. I've had it where my PO4 was dropping faster than my NO3, but mostly when I get elevated PO4 but NO3 stay the same, so I pulled Purigen, which was definitely keeping NO3 in check, and added the Brightwell PO4 reducer, Phosphate-R, which seems to work well, reminds me of Purigen, just beads of what appears to be GFO... Anyway, that has worked to keep cyano at bay, as that stuff really drops the PO4 pretty well. Also allows me to feed frozen to my anthia and chromis atripectoralis, which need multiple feedings/day as well.
If your PO4 is high, you could try lanthanum chloride; that stuff will drop PO4 levels immediately, but you have to filter out the particulate matter with a 10 micron sock, or a lanthanum reactor, or a drip of lantanum, almost like dosing it slowly.
Let us know what happens to the cyano for sure, and also what you think caused it. Everyone wants to know the triggers for why cyano appears, or in Salty's case, why it doesn't appear.
Ha, ha, I was just reading any article and the person who wrote the article said the same thing.
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Here is a link to the products are used. LinkJeffery, where did you get the liquid? I've never seen that one before. Does it state that it "does not contain erythromycin succinate"?
I agree that cyano issues, in my experience, come when I have an imbalance of PO4 to NO3. I've had it where my PO4 was dropping faster than my NO3, but mostly when I get elevated PO4 but NO3 stay the same, so I pulled Purigen, which was definitely keeping NO3 in check, and added the Brightwell PO4 reducer, Phosphate-R, which seems to work well, reminds me of Purigen, just beads of what appears to be GFO... Anyway, that has worked to keep cyano at bay, as that stuff really drops the PO4 pretty well. Also allows me to feed frozen to my anthia and chromis atripectoralis, which need multiple feedings/day as well.
If your PO4 is high, you could try lanthanum chloride; that stuff will drop PO4 levels immediately, but you have to filter out the particulate matter with a 10 micron sock, or a lanthanum reactor, or a drip of lantanum, almost like dosing it slowly.
Let us know what happens to the cyano for sure, and also what you think caused it. Everyone wants to know the triggers for why cyano appears, or in Salty's case, why it doesn't appear.
Carbon dosing fuels cyano and I've read that some strains can produce their own nitrates.
Yeah, I have found that no matter the carbon source, it always triggers cyano, esp. with a N/P imbalance. Good point man, carbon is like adding nitrous to a gasoline mixture. It always ignites. Even with relatively benign carbon sources, such as Brightwell's Reef BioFuel, it makes cyano go crazy. When I stop dosing anything with carbon, the cyano disappears.Carbon dosing fuels cyano and I've read that some strains can produce their own nitrates.
This is why I found a method for my reef to keep phos. and nitrates in check without carbon dosing.
If you want to see a big cyano explosion then do about a 50% water change with TM Bio Actif salt mix.
jsker,Thank you all for the input. I am going forward with another treatment after I do a %20 water change with a substrate vacuum job. Then I will see where I am at
Make my own, I just toss themjsker,
Your on your way and have fun keeping your filter socks clean.
~ Freddie
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