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So I recently purchased aN FMK for my tank. I also purchased 1 leak sensor. My problem is when I go to the task menu to add the one leak sensor it doesn’t let me advance until I select a second leak sensor in port 2 which I do not have. I will be using the other 3 oports for my flow sensors. Any ideas how to add just one leak sensor. TYIA
 
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I'm assuming you're trying to run the LDK setup task in Fusion, but that is designed if you actually purchased the LDK kit which comes with 2 leak sensors. In your case with just a single leak sensor, you'll need to do it manually:

1. Plug in the leak sensor to the FMM
2. Go into the FMM configuration screen to ensure the FMM detected the leak sensor properly. If it did not detect it, be sure the plug is fully seated in the socket. It should be listed as "Water On Floor" as shown in my FMM ports 3 & 4 below:
Screen Shot 2020-10-03 at 3.02.52 PM.png

3. Go to your list of Inputs, scroll through to find the leak sensor. It will be listed as a "Switch" with a default name based on the FMM's AquaBus address and the port number. In my example screenshot above, I'd look for Swx4_3 since my FMM is on address 4 and I have a leak sensor in port 4.
4. Click that Input to go to its configuration page where you can rename it to something more meaningful. Input names are limited to 6 characters, so abbreviate if needed:
Screen Shot 2020-10-03 at 3.07.24 PM.png

5. Go back to your Fusion dashboard, click the padlock icon to unlock the dashboard and reveal the Unused Tiles window at the top of the screen. Scroll right to left until you find the new leak sensor's tile, then drag it down onto your dashboard. Click the padlock icon again when done.
6. Add a line of code to any output you want to turn off or on if a leak is detected. If the leak sensor detects water, it will report closed:

If LkSump CLOSED Then OFF

7. I'd recommend adding a line of code to your EmailAlm output so you receive an alert if a leak is detected:

If LkSump CLOSED Then ON

See my tutorial on Apex Alarm Programming if you need assistance in fine-tuning your alarms: https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/neptune-apex-programming-tutorials-part-6-alarms.707/

Also, be aware that simple condensation on the leak sensor can trigger a false alarm. Many people place the leak sensors on a piece of paper towel to avoid these false alarms. A true leak will saturate the paper towel and still trigger a true leak alarm.

Hope this helps!
 
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Ok so I do have port 1 set as water on floor. I do see the tile for swx_1 along with another leak sensor tile on my dashboard. Now for some reason when I do test the sensor I’m not getting an alarm on my phone. I put in the code
if SWX_1 closed then on bit alarm doesn’t sound.

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Ok so I do have port 1 set as water on floor. I do see the tile for swx_1 along with another leak sensor tile on my dashboard. Now for some reason when I do test the sensor I’m not getting an alarm on my phone. I put in the code
if SWX_1 closed then on bit alarm doesn’t sound.

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No, what you named "LeakSensor" is the 24v Accessory Output of your FMM, which is the 2-pin plug labelled "ACC" on the FMM. And Swx1 is not on the FMM, it's port 1 of the I/O port on the Apex. You need to look for an Input named Swx3_3.
 

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Another way to identify which device is which is to use the System View tool in Fusion:

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Ok I see my code was not the same. I now have it set as SWX3_1 and when the sensor gets wet I get alarm on my phone. Can I rename that SWX3_1 leak or will that affect the alarm since it’s different

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Ok I see my code was not the same. I now have it set as SWX3_1 and when the sensor gets wet I get alarm on my phone. Can I rename that SWX3_1 leak or will that affect the alarm since it’s different

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Yes, if you rename Swx3_1 to "Leak", it will automatically update the programming code with the new name.

You should probably also rename that "LeakSensor" output back to something more meaningful for the 24v output port.

Sounds like you've got it under control now.
 
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Yes, if you rename Swx3_1 to "Leak", it will automatically update the programming code with the new name.

You should probably also rename that "LeakSensor" output back to something more meaningful for the 24v output port.

Sounds like you've got it under control now.
One other question. If I want my other equipment off of the sensor detects a leak do I just put code on those pieces of equipment.
“If SWX3_1 closed then off”?
 

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One other question. If I want my other equipment off of the sensor detects a leak do I just put code on those pieces of equipment.
“If SWX3_1 closed then off”?

Yes, that's what I mentioned in step #6 above. Just be sure to use the exact name of the leak sensor if you renamed it.
 

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