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Neonitro from Brightwell aquatics, anyone used?

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Look on amazon something similar to Loudwolf sodium nitrate.

Or any food grade sodium nitrate then create a stock solution more than a few threads around and how to do that and calculators
 

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I think you can add both, yes.
Hi Randy, I’m hoping you could give me some guidance. I’ve been using Neonitro to increase my nitrates in a 2000 gallon reef. Over time it’s increased my potassium significantly, recently Triton measured it at 550. I’m wondering if a simple switch to sodium nitrate would solve the issue. I don’t want to make any bad moves. Please advise. Thanks, Sean
 

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Hi Randy, I’m hoping you could give me some guidance. I’ve been using Neonitro to increase my nitrates in a 2000 gallon reef. Over time it’s increased my potassium significantly, recently Triton measured it at 550. I’m wondering if a simple switch to sodium nitrate would solve the issue. I don’t want to make any bad moves. Please advise. Thanks, Sean
Yes, that's a good plan.
 

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I just ordered NeoNitro and was wondering if it's necessary to use it in conjunction with Microbacter and Biofuel like they state on the BRS site.

I simply want to raise my nitrates without raising my phosphates.
 

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I have used NeoNitro for over a year now. My understanding is that you need a good bacteria source (Microbacter) to bind with the Nitrate to make it a positive source for corals. In addition, keep an eye on potassium levels as NeoNitro contains potassium.
 

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I have used NeoNitro for over a year now. My understanding is that you need a good bacteria source (Microbacter) to bind with the Nitrate to make it a positive source for corals. In addition, keep an eye on potassium levels as NeoNitro contains potassium.
I'm not sure what you mean, but corals can take up nitrate directly and it can be an important source of nitrogen for them. They also take up ammonia.
 

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If I decide to use NeoNitro, should I also purchase Microbacter and Biofuel as the BRS description implies that I should?

My current parameters are:

Alk: 9.2
Ca: 405
Mg: 1350
NO3: 1
PO4: 0.08 (currently dosing Phosphate E to bring it down to 0.05)

Acros, and most LPS and Softies are fine, but I lost a hammer and a head of torch recently. I'm thinking it could be due to a lack of nutrients which is why I'd like to get my NO3 around 5-10.

Thanks in advance for all the input!

I'm not sure what you mean, but corals can take up nitrate directly and it can be an important source of nitrogen for them. They also take up ammonia.
 

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I'm not sure what you mean, but corals can take up nitrate directly and it can be an important source of nitrogen for them. They also take up ammonia.
If I decide to use NeoNitro, should I also purchase Microbacter and Biofuel as the BRS description implies that I should?

My current parameters are:

Alk: 9.2
Ca: 405
Mg: 1350
NO3: 1
PO4: 0.08 (currently dosing Phosphate E to bring it down to 0.05)

Acros, and most LPS and Softies are fine, but I lost a hammer and a head of torch recently. I'm thinking it could be due to a lack of nutrients which is why I'd like to get my NO3 around 5-10.

Thanks in advance for all the input!
If I decide to use NeoNitro, should I also purchase Microbacter and Biofuel as the BRS description implies that I should?

My current parameters are:

Alk: 9.2
Ca: 405
Mg: 1350
NO3: 1
PO4: 0.08 (currently dosing Phosphate E to bring it down to 0.05)

Acros, and most LPS and Softies are fine, but I lost a hammer and a head of torch recently. I'm thinking it could be due to a lack of nutrients which is why I'd like to get my NO3 around 5-10.

Thanks in advance for all the input!
This part of the hobby has always been a foggy for me, so please forgive me if it’s misleading or bad advise. I was told that by adding a good bacteria source, when needed, is recommended because it competes with algae. I’m guessing that by adding nitrate to the system you run the risk of an algae bloom of sorts if there’s no competition. The bacteria take up nitrate compounds as food and digested by the coral. Is this wrong?
 

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If I decide to use NeoNitro, should I also purchase Microbacter and Biofuel as the BRS description implies that I should?

My current parameters are:

Alk: 9.2
Ca: 405
Mg: 1350
NO3: 1
PO4: 0.08 (currently dosing Phosphate E to bring it down to 0.05)

Acros, and most LPS and Softies are fine, but I lost a hammer and a head of torch recently. I'm thinking it could be due to a lack of nutrients which is why I'd like to get my NO3 around 5-10.

Thanks in advance for all the input!
What is the goal?

if it is raising nutrients, there's no reason to buy anything else, except perhaps phosphate if it gets too low, and maybe trace elements if they are being consumed.
 
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This part of the hobby has always been a foggy for me, so please forgive me if it’s misleading or bad advise. I was told that by adding a good bacteria source, when needed, is recommended because it competes with algae. I’m guessing that by adding nitrate to the system you run the risk of an algae bloom of sorts if there’s no competition. The bacteria take up nitrate compounds as food and digested by the coral. Is this wrong?
That's one process. Is it the major one? Don't know, but probably not for photosynthetic corals.

Bacteria are not typically a big user of nitrate unless you are organic carbon dosing.

Corals DEFINITELY use nitrate and ammonia directly. It is easily demonstrated in the scientific literature how much:

Nitrate uptake in the scleractinian coral Stylophora pistillata

" Nitrate can therefore be considered as an important source of nitrogen for corals, at least when ammonium concentrations are low in seawater. "
 

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Thanks Randy. I'll start off with NeoNitro.

Is there a Brightwell product for trace elements or any other product you'd recommend?

What is the goal?

if it is raising nutrients, there's no reason to buy anything else, except perhaps phosphate if it gets too low, and maybe trace elements if they are being consumed.
 

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Thanks Randy. I'll start off with NeoNitro.

Is there a Brightwell product for trace elements or any other product you'd recommend?
i'm not a fan of Brightwell's product claims, but I don't know anything about its trace element additives.

I don't have a particular brand that I think is best.
 

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Hello All! New to this forum. Stumbled upon this very useful thread!

I have about a year old system, with total 100 gallons water volume. A mostly SPS dominated system. Running both a refugium and a decent skimmer. Even with feeding relatively heavy I have been unable to measure nitrates or phosphates in the past 9 months. I have tried testing Nitrates with salifert, LaMotte, Hanna, ICP. As you can image I am battling a "paleness" issue with my SPS.

I recently received a bottle of NioNitro and to be honest I am a bit confused with the instructions.

Following the calculator I should dose ~6ml to raise .5ppm. (100 * .5 * .1261 = 6.305). I wanted to start slowly as I have always done in this hobby. So the question is how often do you dose NioNitro? Daily? Weekly?

and should I worry about not detecting any phosphates as well?

Stable average parameters
alk: 8.2
Calc: 430
Mag: 1530 (slowly bringing it down)
NO3: 0
PO4: 0
 

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Hello All! New to this forum. Stumbled upon this very useful thread!

I have about a year old system, with total 100 gallons water volume. A mostly SPS dominated system. Running both a refugium and a decent skimmer. Even with feeding relatively heavy I have been unable to measure nitrates or phosphates in the past 9 months. I have tried testing Nitrates with salifert, LaMotte, Hanna, ICP. As you can image I am battling a "paleness" issue with my SPS.

I recently received a bottle of NioNitro and to be honest I am a bit confused with the instructions.

Following the calculator I should dose ~6ml to raise .5ppm. (100 * .5 * .1261 = 6.305). I wanted to start slowly as I have always done in this hobby. So the question is how often do you dose NioNitro? Daily? Weekly?

and should I worry about not detecting any phosphates as well?

Stable average parameters
alk: 8.2
Calc: 430
Mag: 1530 (slowly bringing it down)
NO3: 0
PO4: 0
Most people dosing nitrate will dose daily, but if you dose up to, say 2-5 ppm and it stays there, there's no need to dose again until it drops below your target level.

Yes, look to dose phosphate too, or feed more.
 
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