Oregon tort,cali tort rtn or stn ?

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  1. dylanst.onge

    dylanst.onge Member

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    Looking to pick some of your brains that are really into sticks. First off the tank is a 120gal rr with 2 ecotech radion gen3 pro at 75$ on coral lab ab+ with skimmer cheato,purigen,carbon and all that. So as of lately my cali tort has receaded a decent amount as well as my Oregon tort as pictured, I dont see any parasites in on them or anything but they seem to be dieing very very slowly
    Parameters:
    Sal 1.026
    Alk 144ppn
    Cal460ppm
    Mag 1360
    Ph stays around 8.2
    Phos undetectable with salifert
    Nitrate undetectable with salifert


    Any help is appreciated all my other corals are looking fine and even the torts have there polyps out during the day[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  2. 29bonsaireef

    29bonsaireef Well-Known Member

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    Looks like STN. With a skimmer, cheato, purigen, and carbon you really might be hitting the bottom for NO3/P04 which is not the best for acros. I'd pick one export method and stick to it. Skimmer/Cheato should be enough, honestly. How well is your cheato growing atm?
     
  3. dylanst.onge

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    Its growing pretty good I'll shut of the reactor with carbon it in and pull the purigen alot should I cut it and reglue or just leave it and watch?
     
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    ycnibrc STAG HORN DOMINATE REEF R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    Your Coral are starving. Shut down skimmer feed 5 x more than before for a week then u will see improvement
     
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    dylanst.onge Member

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    I'll give it a try thanks
     
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    You might want to get the Hanna ULR Phosphorus checker. Salifert isn't good for sps levels of PO4
     
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    The carbon isn't doing anything in the way of nutrient removal so there isn't any good reason to stop that. Instead of making multiple changes, maybe try cutting back on the Purigen to see what happens. Feeding more doesn't make sense if you're using something to actively remove nutrients (in this case, Purigen); select one or the other (though it makes little sense to feed more while using Purigen so I'd suggest eliminating that). I wouldn't suggest cutting out the Purigen, stopping the skimmer, and feeding more daily as a good solution for anything positive.

    It's hard to say for sure due to picture quality but it looks like your corals are fairly pale (especially for Cali and Oregon torts), low nutrients may be a realistic possibility, just don't go changing everything at once.
     
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    ajm83 Active Member UK Reef Club Member

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    Am I missing something, or is carbon not doing almost exactly the same as purigen and the skimmer?
     
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    madweazl Valuable Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    They're all removing dissolved organic compounds, the Purigen is considerably more effective than GAC.
     
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    declanisadog Well-Known Member Build Thread Contributor

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    I don't see a single fish in any of your pictures. How many fish do you have? Corals love fish poop. Like previously stated, your stripping the water of everything corals need to thrive.
     
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    Yep they said it. Nutrients just too low for acros. I dealt with the same problem.
     
  12. 29bonsaireef

    29bonsaireef Well-Known Member

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    Just let them be for now. They can grow over those areas if you get you water back in check. Purigen would be the first thing I take out. Then, slowly remove carbon from the reactor, until you have readable NO3/PO4, if necessary.
     
  13. dylanst.onge

    dylanst.onge Member

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    I have a yellow corris wrasse, 2 clowns, a goby, and chromis, as for purigen I cut it in half and give it a week or so see if that helps and order a hanna phosphate checker in the meantime
     
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    That's what I'm thinking I've been planning on taking out the carbon in the next month anyway
     
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    madweazl Valuable Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    Make sure you grab the Hanna ULTRA low range (HI736) vice the low range (HI713 I believe).
     
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    When you say carbon, you mean GAC right? Running carbon could also mean dosing carbon (vodka, vinegar, sugar, no pox, etc) as a means of nutrient removal. If you are runnng no GAC, I’d keep using it. If you are dosing carbon, I would stop it.
     
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