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My reef tank had high phos at .22, I have primarily all zoas (they were doing amazing) shrooms (slightly shriveled) and frog spawn ( slightly shriveled)


Due to high phosphate and some of the corals being shrinked, I added NEOPHOS. I mistakenly added three capsules instead of slowly adding it. To try to offset this, I added some refs and some fish food to hopefully the gate the effects and raise the faucet back to what it should be. Some things are still open and doing good, but other things are not happy. What should I do to fix this missing an established tank and I have not done any maintenance to it in the last six months as everything has been doing good and I just made a significant change.
 
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My reef tank had high phos at .22, I have primarily all zoas (they were doing amazing) shrooms (slightly shriveled) and frog spawn ( slightly shriveled)


Due to high phosphate and some of the corals being shrinked, I added NEOPHOS. I mistakenly added three capsules instead of slowly adding it. To try to offset this, I added some refs and some fish food to hopefully the gate the effects and raise the faucet back to what it should be. Some things are still open and doing good, but other things are not happy. What should I do to fix this missing an established tank and I have not done any maintenance to it in the last six months as everything has been doing good and I just made a significant change.
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What was your nitrate before adding NeoPhos and what is it now?

I would monitor the tank and stopping adding chemicals. While .2ppm of phosphate is high it is not an emergency and for some, it is a normal level.
 

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Will do, what do you think I should do to fix those levels?
What corals are in your display? Until you know nitrate, I see nothing that needs fixing.

How about a full tank shot with white light.
 
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What corals are in your display? Until you know nitrate, I see nothing that needs fixing.

How about a full tank shot with white light.
I can get you one when I get home. My phos was super high and I added phosphate remover and now things are stressed out. That’s why I made the post.
 

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I can get you one when I get home. My phos was super high and I added phosphate remover and now things are stressed out. That’s why I made the post.
You added phosphate & nitrate remover. There are other products that target phosphate only.

Filter Media​

There are a variety of phosphate removing filter media that work in reef aquariums as well.

The most popular is Granular ferric oxide or “GFO” for short. GFO binds inorganic phosphate as water flows through the media. GFO works slowly when compared to other medias and is best used inside a fluidized media reactor to maximize media exposure.

Liquid Phosphate Removers​

Blue Life Phosphate RX and Brightwell Aquatics PhosphatE utilize Lanthanum Chloride which is another option and comes in the form of a liquid which is dosed directly into your tank. The lanthanum binds with phosphate, forming microscopic insoluble lanthanum phosphate particles. The inert particles are then removed via mechanical filtration and protein skimming.
 
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Neophos is what it’s called
I know what it is called. And it removes nitrate.
Vinegar & Vodka do the same thing.

Mushroom like high nutrients. In my mixed garden lagoons with mature softies, I dose ammonia to keep up with nitrogen demand.
 
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I know what it is called. And it removes nitrate.

Mushroom like high nutrients. In my mixed garden lagoons with mature softies, I dose ammonia to keep up with nitrogen demand.
Okay I’ll test it later and let you know. Thank you
 
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I know what it is called. And it removes nitrate.

Mushroom like high nutrients. In my mixed garden lagoons with mature softies, I dose ammonia to keep up with nitrogen demand.
But since I added a ton of it, assuming I crashed the levels what should I do
 

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IMO no maintenance for 6 months leaves the door wide open for it to be anything. If the corals stopped being happy, IMO the first reaction should be a water change.
 

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But since I added a ton of it, assuming I crashed the levels what should I do
Do nothing until you know both phosphate & nitrate levels. Determine alkalinity. I also suggest partial water changes. Consider using GAC along with phosguard in your HOB.

When you added NoPhos, you should be running a protein skimmer. When you carbon dose, you feed bacteria and bacteria absorb nutrients that are exported via skimmate.

What did your skimmate look like after adding nophos?

Know this: DOC (Dissolved Organic Carbon) is a by product of photosynthesis. The exudates ( by-product or waste) of corals are mostly proteins & the exudates of algae are mostly carbohydrates, glucose or sugar. There are tens of thousands of DOC compounds and they are difficult to measure:
without a natural nutrient recycling pathway, export of DOC via partial water change is a good preventative measure.

Cryptic sponges are one natural nutrient pathway for processing DOC in marine environments.
 
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Do nothing until you know both phosphate & nitrate levels. Determine alkalinity. I also suggest partial water changes. Consider using GAC along with phosguard in your HOB.

When you added NoPhos, you should be running a protein skimmer. When you carbon dose, you feed bacteria and bacteria absorb nutrients that are exported via skimmate.

What did your skimmate look like after adding nophos?

Know this: DOC (Dissolved Organic Carbon) is a by product of photosynthesis. The exudates ( by-product or waste) of corals are mostly proteins & the exudates of algae are mostly carbohydrates, glucose or sugar. DOCs are difficult to measure and without a natural nutrient recycling pathway, export of DOC via partial water change is a good preventative measure.
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Not sure what the skimmer looks like. Should I clean it? I will test it all
I’m a hour or 2
 

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My reef tank had high phos at .22, I have primarily all zoas (they were doing amazing) shrooms (slightly shriveled) and frog spawn ( slightly shriveled)


Due to high phosphate and some of the corals being shrinked, I added NEOPHOS. I mistakenly added three capsules instead of slowly adding it. To try to offset this, I added some refs and some fish food to hopefully the gate the effects and raise the faucet back to what it should be. Some things are still open and doing good, but other things are not happy. What should I do to fix this missing an established tank and I have not done any maintenance to it in the last six months as everything has been doing good and I just made a significant change.
I looked for a tank thread but found none. I did see threads with reference to a 10G & a 12G.

Please describe the biofiltration for this tank and how long has tank been set up. Is this your first tank?
 
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