Pine-sol

[PoorReefer]

Well I dont know about your solution.
I feel you need a lot more time on each step.
Like several days.

If you browse the forums on bleaching rock alone you will not find any that do this in a few hours. Most will bleach clean over a week at a minimum.
Then they let the rock dry for a week.
There are reasons behind this.

But everyone has to do it there way.
I just feel bad for the livestock and your wallet.
As your handle is PoorReefer I am gathering your on a budget.
So I would hate to see fish and corals die and deplete your funds when a little patients and effort will avoid potential disaster.

I hope you reconsider and take the time to be positive the rock is 100% clean and free of chemicals.
I seriously doubt that a few hours will acomplish this.

Considder that all the responses you recieved here today had an extencive and time consuming cleaning process.

Time, patience, and diligence will prevail in this hobby.

Oh, I didn't mean I was gonna reevaluate whether I can put the rocks in my tank tomorrow. I am expecting the process of chemical removal to take as long as it takes, then I will need to cure the rock and I plan on cycling it before I introduce it to my DT, and that's only IF the rocks can be cleaned of the pine-sol. I'm in no rush.

 

[K7BMG]

Oh, I didn't mean I was gonna reevaluate whether I can put the rocks in my tank tomorrow. I am expecting the process of chemical removal to take as long as it takes, then I will need to cure the rock and I plan on cycling it before I introduce it to my DT, and that's only IF the rocks can be cleaned of the pine-sol. I'm in no rush.

Whew
Good for you. Sorry I misunderstood.

 

[Graffiti Spot]

I would certainly throw them away and buy rock from a source who would not pine sol them. If they put that on the rocks to clean them what are the chances of them using copper when they were in the tank? Or anything like that really, I just couldn’t trust there was not other issues and wouldn’t want to have to break the tank down because of bad rock after I put all that work into it.

 

[K7BMG]

I would certainly throw them away and buy rock from a source who would not pine sol them. If they put that on the rocks to clean them what are the chances of them using copper when they were in the tank? Or anything like that really, I just couldn’t trust there was not other issues and wouldn’t want to have to break the tank down because of bad rock after I put all that work into it.

Couldn't agree more.
But also why I recomend after it was cycled in a container both an ICP and N-Doc tests are done before they go into a real tank.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

As noted above, Pine Sol has many versiond. The pine scented one ingredients are here:

https://smartlabel.labelinsight.com/product/6179369/ingredients

The main ones that would concern me are the detergents/surfactants (#2 and #3 on the list).

If the rock soaking in water readily allows the water to be foamed, these are still present and may be an issue.

I'm not sure if this is not happening, whether there will be enough of any ingredients to be a problem or not.

 

[PoorReefer]

So this morning after letting the water sit with powerheads there was a significant amount of bubbles on the wall of the bin, but no foam on top of the water. I will definitely check for copper, great suggestion. Thank you for the info on the chemicals in pine-sol. I don't "need" the rocks so I'm not hell bent on using them, but i would sure like to see if I can rid the rocks of the chemicals. Also if I believe the rocks safe I will definitely do an ICP test to see what's going on.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

So this morning after letting the water sit with powerheads there was a significant amount of bubbles on the wall of the bin, but no foam on top of the water. I will definitely check for copper, great suggestion. Thank you for the info on the chemicals in pine-sol. I don't "need" the rocks so I'm not hell bent on using them, but i would sure like to see if I can rid the rocks of the chemicals. Also if I believe the rocks safe I will definitely do an ICP test to see what's going on.

FWIW, ICP won't be useful to detect any of the Pine Sol ingredients, but it might detect other problems.

 

[PoorReefer]

FWIW, ICP won't be useful to detect any of the Pine Sol ingredients, but it might detect other problems.

I thought about that. Do you think causing a reaction between any pine-sol present with bleach will exhaust the chemicals present in pine-sol?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I thought about that. Do you think causing a reaction between any pine-sol present with bleach will exhaust the chemicals present in pine-sol?

I'm not sure how readily the pine sold surfactants will be oxidized by bleach.

 

[K7BMG]

FWIW, ICP won't be useful to detect any of the Pine Sol ingredients, but it might detect other problems.

I agree with you.
For me it would help in knowing that everything else is in line.
As I am not a chemist my knowledge is very limited.
But I do know that various chemicals can react to other chemicals and change things up.
So in my feeble mind I would do both an ICP and N-Doc.
But honestly I would save myself all the troubles and discard the rock and not use it.