PLEASE HELP ASAP!! VELVET INFECTED FISH

[Coral Keeper]

How much general cure should be added to the food? 1 tablespoon food and a whole packet of general cure + a scoop of focus?

 

[HotRocks]

How much general cure should be added to the food? 1 tablespoon food and a whole packet of general cure + a scoop of focus?

1 tablespoon prepared food + one scoop focus + 1 scoop GC (use the focus scoop).

 

[Coral Keeper]

Okay, thank you!
Also, an update on the Moorish Idols, unfortunately 2 of the 3 died.. they were all doing so well and eating like PIGS.. they were eating foods from my hand! then all of a sudden one dies.. few days later another one dies.. and the one that is left was the fattest from all 3 and ate the most aggressively.. he was like seriously THICK AND FAT.. now he is starting to loose appetite and is not eating as much and looks thinner than he was before.. copper level is kept at around 1.75ppm.. also i keep nori in the tank 24/7.. pictures of him.. also looks like he is getting a few dark pigments on him here and there..

 

[Coral Keeper]

You could see some of the dark pigments in the flash pictures in his white stripes/fins.. he didn't have them before and recently started getting them.. I sometimes see him twitching his fins every now and then?
@HotRocks

 

[HotRocks]

You could see some of the dark pigments in the flash pictures in his white stripes/fins.. he didn't have them before and recently started getting them.. I sometimes see him twitching his fins every now and then?
@HotRocks

These guys are extremely hard to adapt to captivity...

Their MO is exactly as you have experienced. The colors just look like they do at night.

Can you do a FW dip and check for flukes? That could be causing the twitching.

 

[Coral Keeper]

MO? What's that?
Doesn't copper kill flukes? It's currently at 1.75ppm.

 

[HotRocks]

Sorry I was just saying that's common for idols. They seem fine, quit or slow down eating and then that's it...

 

[Coral Keeper]

Would the freshwater dip push the Moorish Idol over the edge due to stress? Or would it be less stressful to just dose the tank with prazi with the copper still being at 1.75ppm?

 

[HotRocks]

Would the freshwater dip push the Moorish Idol over the edge due to stress? Or would it be less stressful to just dose the tank with prazi with the copper still being at 1.75ppm?

I would just do FW dip if it were me. I don't like mixing Prazipro and copper.

 

[Coral Keeper]

So I gave the Moorish Idol a 5 minute freshwater bath and TONS of flatworms came flying off the guy poor thing! I honestly would have never assumed it was flatworms.. I though copper killed them.. ugg!! Thats probably why the other 2 died UGG!! so mad at myself...

So what would be the best course of action at this point? The copper levels are at 1.70ppm.. should I dose prazi into the tank with the copper? Or? Please help!
@HotRocks
@Humblefish
@4FordFamily

 

[Coral Keeper]

So I just dosed prazi into the tank.. didnt want to risk losing him due to the flukes.. And the copper treatment isn't over yet.. hopefully everything will go well..

 

[HotRocks]

So I just dosed prazi into the tank.. didnt want to risk losing him due to the flukes.. And the copper treatment isn't over yet.. hopefully everything will go well..

Make sure you have TONS of agitation at the surface. Oxygen depletion and possible bacterial bloom are the reasons I don't like to mix copper + prazi. It can be done.

In the future, a weekly FW dip can usually provide enough relief during copper to hold off deworming till post copper. How many days of copper are left?

 

[Coral Keeper]

Yeah, I have airstones in there.
Copper treatment finishes on the 10th of december.. since I did this one treatment and killed most of them off, I should be okay to NOT dose more prazi till copper treatment is done, right?

 

[HotRocks]

Yeah, I have airstones in there.
Copper treatment finishes on the 10th of december.. since I did this one treatment and killed most of them off, I should be okay to NOT dose more prazi till copper treatment is done, right?

Yes I would wait.

 

[4FordFamily]

Yes I would wait.

Agree as well! Wait on more Prazi. Copper should keep it from spreading at a minimum.

 

[Coral Keeper]

Okay, thank you!!

 

[Coral Keeper]

Update, the Moorish Idol is starting to regain his big appetite and is acting much more lively and no bacteria bloom so far

 

[HotRocks]

Update, the Moorish Idol is starting to regain his big appetite and is acting much more lively and no bacteria bloom so far

Love it! Great news!

 

[Coral Keeper]

Update, when the fish is in copper, has flukes AND gets a bacterial infection.. what would be the best course of action? Im currently doing a 5 minute freshwater bath then a 90 minute bath in Acriflavine MS that is COPPER FREE then back into the QT with 1.75ppm of copper he goes?

 

[HotRocks]

Add antibiotics to copper as well. Kanaplex and Furan-2.