Please look here, Wetside defects.

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  1. bobssecrtsn

    bobssecrtsn Active Member

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    So For weeks I've been hitting my head figuring out why they sps would die within a month, from dipping, QTing process, waiting weeks for a sps free tank etc. I then tried Triton test.


    a week past by and I get the results, High Tin in my system, 14 UG/l.

    Found checked all my pumps, Magnets are GOOD. I then suck out the sand, and say " just for ***** lets check my 4-5month old mp40 QD wetsides"

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    Triton test does not lie, Found my cuprit. Call up ecotech and ask for a new wetside. no questions asked. They will send me 2 new ones.

    A few days past and doing 10% WC daily, with only 1 mp60QD in my tank, I remove it, and behold, a hairline crack? What do you guys think? this mp60 is 1-2 months old I should add.

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    Same place where the rust was coming out of..
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    I believe it has to due to where both joints meet, It seems as if its to weak and causes it to crack like this.

    I say Ecotech needs to warranty all wetsides, and have a solution for this.

    As a result all my sps has perished leaving me only just 4-5 thats hanging on.

    I wish I would have checked sooner..

    My symptoms would include

    excellent p.e for the first week, Encrust, then slowly no p.e, sps starts to fade and then rtn/stn from base or tips, in a matter of 2-3 weeks.

    Please leave your input and I would recommend EVERYONE check their wetsides.

    as well sorry for the bad grammer, P.OED about this hobby and all the money i spent on good equipment to have it fail so early and kill everything.

    and YES, Its properly maintained and cleaned.
     
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  2. Sabellafella

    Sabellafella Valuable Member R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Reef Squad Leader Build Thread Contributor Reef Tank 365

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    Unfortunately its very very common. Every vortech ive owned rusted, in a short period of time as well. At the time i never tritoned tested, but i also was having tank problems with the vortechs at the time as well. Tin? Most likely the reason why. I would get that replaced, mp60s are expensive, and if its only 2 months old-id contact customer service

    I triton tested(for the first time) about 8 months after ditching them, and i had tin (and manganese) present. Instead of the detox, i used metasorb from two little fishies to get it out
     
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  3. Mason Rice

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    What test kits are you guys using to test triton? I only ask because I'm still new to this and I have mp60's. Thanks in advanced
     
  4. Adamc13o3

    Adamc13o3 Active Member R2R Supporter

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    Trtion is a company that does lab grade water testing. You send them a sample of you're water. Welcome!
     
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    I've also had this happen to me. It was on an MP10. My current MP10 seems ok for now... but the plastic sleeve around the rod guide has shattered. Debating if I should replace it.
     
  6. Lowell Lemon

    Lowell Lemon Well-Known Member

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    Again you should consider Tunze to replace this brand of pump. Never had a problem with their pumps...German made like a Porsche...rock solid, low energy consumption, reliable...three things you should look for in a pump.
     
  7. reef lover

    reef lover It's a reef thing.... R2R Supporter Reef Squad R2R Excellence Award Build Thread Contributor

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    They all have their own issues I've had two tunze rust out on me and have since switched to vortex...now I feel I need to check them when I get home..lol
     
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    Lowell Lemon Well-Known Member

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    I still have a tunze pump now about 15 years old doing great. Original impellor as well. The only time I have seen a Tunze pump rust is when the pump was allowed to run hot due to low water level or run dry resulting in the epoxy and case cracking. This is customer abuse not design flaw.
     
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    reef lover It's a reef thing.... R2R Supporter Reef Squad R2R Excellence Award Build Thread Contributor

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    Never ran hot or dry either pump and they both rusted around the magnet.
     
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    Lowell Lemon Well-Known Member

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    @reef lover
    There are exceptions to every rule and the one rule is nothing made by humans is perfect. Sorry you had that experience.
     
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  11. Sabellafella

    Sabellafella Valuable Member R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Reef Squad Leader Build Thread Contributor Reef Tank 365

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    Lol my tunze pumps outlasted my tanks lifetime, over 5 years and i had to have only cleaned them once.
     
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  12. Salty1962

    Salty1962 Wrasse and SPS Lover R2R Supporter Reef Squad R2R Excellence Award Build Thread Contributor Partner Member 2018

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    I ditched my Vortech because I was tired of replacing cracked magnets and shafts. Hoping the Neptune WAVs and Tunze hold up better.
     
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    Frogspawn74 Active Member Reef Tank 365

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    Had the same issue as well. 2 of the 3 mp60 cracked on me as well. Switched to tunze and gyres. Won't recommend ecotech pumps at all. Also have their small return go out. Not sure yet if it is the pump or power supply. I put the jabeo 6000 that ran for almost 2 years prior to the supposed upgrade that lasted 9 month. Forgot to make claim within the year:(
     
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  14. Want2BS8ed

    Want2BS8ed Active Member R2R Supporter

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    Similar issues here with Vortech's and no longer use them. Shame, because they are the least visually intrusive of the in-tank options IMO.

    How are the Neptune WAVs holding up? Anyone experiencing similar separation/rusting issues?
     
  15. Shores805

    Shores805 Rogue R2R Supporter

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    Never personally experienced this issue but all three of the Vortechs (dry sides) I've owned took a crap after about a year and a half to two years max. I'll never own another Ecotech product.
     
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    shoelaceike Valuable Member R2R Supporter

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    What a shame. I just purchased an MP40. I wish Ecotech would chime in here.
     
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    Shores805 Rogue R2R Supporter

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    It is a shame. I have a 225 in-wall with one viewable panel( the front). My side panels and back panel are painted. It would be nice to just have a wet side viewable in my display with no cord but I refuse. I'll deal with the cord and the proven reliability of Tunze, personally.
     
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  18. Vaughn17

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    I have two MP10s that have been running for four years with no problems.
     
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  19. Salty1962

    Salty1962 Wrasse and SPS Lover R2R Supporter Reef Squad R2R Excellence Award Build Thread Contributor Partner Member 2018

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    I've been running the WAVs for 6 mths now and haven't had any issues. I take apart 1x month to clean and check and have found no rust or any other issues. Great pumps and very high output.
     
  20. Salty1962

    Salty1962 Wrasse and SPS Lover R2R Supporter Reef Squad R2R Excellence Award Build Thread Contributor Partner Member 2018

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    The old 40s are notorious for breaking when cleaning. Just a FYI for folks who have them to be careful cleaning;)
     
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