Plumbing advice needed - basement sump

[EmdeReef]

I’m designing a new tank setup and considering placing the sump in the utility room in the basement. Probably 15-20ft.

My main concern is the water noise, the tank will be in the living room. Is it possible to keep the drain silent?

Any other issues to anticipate?

Thanks!

 

[Catawba_Valley_Reef]

If you use a herbie or bean animal drain set up then you can keep it silent. The majority of the noise would come from water going into your overflow box, but you can adjust the height of the water in the box to keep it quiet.

What do you mean by straight line pipe?

 

[UncommonSense]

I’m designing a new tank setup and considering placing the sump in the utility room in the basement. Probably 15-20ft.

My main concern is the water noise, the tank will be in the living room. Is it possible to keep the drain silent?

Any other issues to anticipate?

Thanks!

You’ll obviously need a very high head capability return pump; I presume you’ve considered this?

Running your drain pipes at a 45 degree angle can help to reduce drain noise from long straight lengths in the secondary drain pipe! You can also use pipe insulation to reduce water noise…

primary drain would likely be restricted via gate valve in the basement, and thus wouldn’t be noisy in the house!

you should make the emergency drain intentionally noisy if you can though; it’s a good indicator of a problem!

 

[EmdeReef]

If you use a herbie or bean animal drain set up then you can keep it silent. The majority of the noise would come from water going into your overflow box, but you can adjust the height of the water in the box to keep it quiet.

What do you mean by straight line pipe?

Thank you, the line is just a concern that it’s a 15–20ft pipe and sometimes you can hear the noise of water from the second floor bathrooms but I assume with constant flow that can get a bit of easier to reduce.

 

[EmdeReef]

You’ll obviously need a very high head capability return pump; I presume you’ve considered this?

Running your drain pipes at a 45 degree angle can help to reduce drain noise from long straight lengths in the secondary drain pipe! You can also use pipe insulation to reduce water noise…

primary drain would likely be restricted via gate valve in the basement, and thus wouldn’t be noisy in the house!

you should make the emergency drain intentionally noisy if you can though; it’s a good indicator of a problem!

Thanks that’s very helpful. Going to look into pipe
Insulation.

Im checking return pumps with good head pressure, probably going with something AC and noisy lol

 

[UncommonSense]

Thank you, the line is just a concern that it’s a 15–20ft pipe and sometimes you can hear the noise of water from the second floor bathrooms but I assume with constant flow that can get a bit of easier to reduce.

Yes, the trickle of water you hear from upstairs bathrooms is predominantly from a large water “surge” through the plumbing in the walls…

If the primary drain is restricted to a full siphon in the basement, and the secondary drain is just accepting a trickle; the water noise from the plumbing will be minimal… you can further decrease the noise with slanted runs of pipe and/or foam insulation around each noisy pipe!

 

[UncommonSense]

Im checking return pumps with good head pressure, probably going with something AC and noisy lol

Check out external pumps; some of them have just incredible performance specs, and fantastically robust construction!