Power usage, holy crap!

[Clownfish_Boy]

Be glad you don't have Metal Halide lighting ! Now that would consume some power, at least 300 watts !

 

[Erick Armanii]

Tear downs trade over a million so not as cheap is you might think. This is NYC commuter territory so it gets a bit stupid. Not that anyone commutes anymore. Everybody “works from home” now. The schools are awesome though.

Agreed. Fairfield county is stupid expensive, at one point it was the most expensive county in the USA. 1400sqft house on the lake Just listed at 1.2mil and it looks like it needs to be a complete teardown and rebuild.
Further south you border Long Island sound, Manhattan area and the money quadruples.

 

[JumboShrimp]

Ha, ha, ha! I guess a visual graph like that would make any fish-keeper feel like a Nit-Wit. :p

Carry-on, and enjoy your beautiful fish!

 

[BZOFIQ]

yes it is, here in NJ they charge you "delivery fee" which fluctuates depending on time of day, i.e. peak vs quiet. Which sometimes is more expensive than electricity itself... :mad:

Here in NY the delivery is ALWAYS more expensive @ nearly double the cost of pure kWh.

 

[BZOFIQ]

If you have a huge solar system and are about to drop 30K on a generator and house switch AND you need a whole day of backup power or more, then maybe consider a few powerwalls instead.

$30K on a generator?!?!?!?!

Is everything in CA that much more expensive?

 

[NeverlosT]

$30K on a generator?!?!?!?!

Is everything in CA that much more expensive?

ooof I added a zero on there lol

I am talking "whole house generator":

About 3K. So yeah, waaay less than a powerwall. Most can hook up to your natural gas line too...

 

[NeverlosT]

also, folks are talking lighting. LED is (almost) just as power hungry these days.

T5 for my tank, two 8 bulb 48" powermodules = 16x54W = 864W
LED for my tank: 6x Radion G5 Pro = 6x180W = 1080W

So LED is not guaranteed to use less juice.

 

[Erick Armanii]

ooof I added a zero on there lol

I am talking "whole house generator":

About 3K. So yeah, waaay less than a powerwall. Most can hook up to your natural gas line too...

I priced one of these at around 20k ouchhhhh

 

[Dave Cureton]

Cost on a Generac Guardian series generator with ATS is anywhere between $4k (16kw) and $6k (24kw).

Norwall PowerSystems

Home Standby Generators—RV Generators—Commercial Backup—Portable Generators—Commercial Mobile—Light Towers—Power Equipment—Backup Generators

www.norwall.com

You're probably looking at another $4k-$6k to install depending on the jobsite specifics, permit fees, etc. I don't work for Norwall just sharing a site with pricing. Generac pricing is MAP so it should be the same everywhere.

 

[BZOFIQ]

I priced one of these at around 20k ouchhhhh

That's a ripoff, they sell from 4-8k depending on the desired load rating. It costs about 10K all in here to get one of these because of permitting and installation costs.

 

[BZOFIQ]

Cost on a Generac Guardian series generator with ATS is anywhere between $4k (16kw) and $6k (24kw).

Norwall PowerSystems

Home Standby Generators—RV Generators—Commercial Backup—Portable Generators—Commercial Mobile—Light Towers—Power Equipment—Backup Generators

www.norwall.com

You're probably looking at another $4k-$6k to install depending on the jobsite specifics, permit fees, etc. I don't work for Norwall just sharing a site with pricing. Generac pricing is MAP so it should be the same everywhere.

Grate example with pricing at the link.

 

[Dave Cureton]

Info from my last PG&E bill to share data. Big increase over last month due to heatwave and smoke forcing us to use AC instead of whole house fan at night. This is with a 7.6kw AC PV system on a TOU rate. It would be a lot worse without the PV. Check out Tier 2 Peak $.49/kwh!

 

[pbrown]

currently i pay .41 per kwh. the issue is california, not the USA :)

we have something called tiered pricing. my wife and i have 4 kids, so were always in tier 3 :(

I have the same issue in Ca.

 

[Daniel@R2R]

Crazy how expensive electricity is!

 

[Brew12]

Crazy how expensive electricity is!

It is pretty crazy, but the cost isn't in the price of generation. Electricity can be generated for between $.03 and $.04 per kwh for the most part. The real costs are in installing and maintaining the infrastructure for distribution.
California has very high rates for a few reasons, but one of the big ones is how much solar is online. Very few of those installations are off grid so the utilities must still maintain the same capacity as if there was no solar. Then, they are forced to buy the excess electricity being put on the grid at a much higher cost than they could generate it at.
Those costs have to be recuperated somehow, and right now it is by charging a higher rate per kwh. In reality, people without solar are paying to subsidize those with solar power systems.

 

[ALRUI]

Who cares? Put the pedal to the metal & leave a big a** carbon footprint!

 

[Pete Luna]

Who cares? Put the pedal to the metal & leave a big a** carbon footprint!

Can’t take it with you, think I need to go bigger.

 

[dtruitt]

Yeah but you need to take into account that low voltage DC watts is not the same as your AC wattage that you pay for. 100 watts DC is not 100 watts AC. A lot of aquarium equipment like lighting and pumps only tell you the DC wattage.

In the UK I run 3 tanks, 1 reef, 1 planted freshwater and one nano reef. All have heaters, lights, pumps, skimmers and all the other extras and my total cost is around £20 per month or around $28.

my 3000 watt hot tube only costs £50 per month to run 24/7

AC and DC wattage should be very similar. Power is conserved, voltage and Ampacity are not. Depending on the power factor, 90W DC will generally translate to 95W to 105W on your AC.

 

[Panky]

currently i pay .41 per kwh. the issue is california, not the USA :)

we have something called tiered pricing. my wife and i have 4 kids, so were always in tier 3 :(

Man I was ticked over my jump from .09 to .13

 

[Panky]

Man I was ticked over my jump from .09 to .13

I’ll just thank my blessings