Purple tang help please!!!

[Borgie234]

I have had this guy for a couple weeks now. Treating with cuppermine I made a stupid error in bringing the levels up to .77, and didnt realize it for about 3 days. He definitely changed his attitude due to it and stopped eating, once I realized my mistake I immediately threw him in my DT. to get him out of copper. when I first put him in he swam upright but seem to be really weak and then started laying on the ground. I then put him into a box so that the current wouldnt bash him against the rocks. he started of laying in the box but has now started floating on his side with what looks to be a bloated belly and can not seem to swim down. I think I need to vent him, and wanted to get other opinions before doing so. Any advice would be appreciated

 

[Justin101714]

I don’t think the cupramine did this to him. I think it’s just a coincidence. I run my cupramine at 1.0ppm for all fish! I think this guy either had a internal parasite that has progressed or he has swim bladder. I’ve picked up some of my fish and knead the belly super gently in freak situations like this, but they normally end up passing. That’s not a normal practice, but an attempt to save the fish is better than nothing I guess. There’s no airation in that box? Maybe try to put him in QT with prazi or API General cure.

 

[Borgie234]

I don’t think the cupramine did this to him. I think it’s just a coincidence. I run my cupramine at 1.0ppm for all fish! I think this guy either had a internal parasite that has progressed or he has swim bladder. I’ve picked up some of my fish and knead the belly super gently in freak situations like this, but they normally end up passing. That’s not a normal practice, but an attempt to save the fish is better than nothing I guess. There’s no airation in that box? Maybe try to put him in QT with prazi or API General cure.

what is your opinion on trying to vent him? I did treat him with api and focus prior to cuppermine and his poop as always been normal so I dont think its internal parasites

 

[Justin101714]

what is your opinion on trying to vent him? I did treat him with api and focus prior to cuppermine and his poop as always been normal so I dont think its internal parasites

I guess you could just use an airstone to agitate the surface. How’s he doing?

 

[Borgie234]

I guess you could just use an airstone to agitate the surface. How’s he doing?

Still about the same, he seems like he wants to be able to swim but it appears, what looks to be air bubble trapped in his belly is preventing him from doing so, also it seems as if his side fins are not moving very well

 

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[4FordFamily]

You may need to vent him if it’s swimbladder. I also don’t think copper did this. If salinity and temp were different between the two it would cause some shock but not a swimbladder infection/issue generally.

 

[Borgie234]

You may need to vent him if it’s swimbladder. I also don’t think copper did this. If salinity and temp were different between the two it would cause some shock but not a swimbladder infection/issue generally.

Any thing I can do to help him?? I have tried to vent him but no change in status

 

[4FordFamily]

Any thing I can do to help him?? I have tried to vent him but no change in status

You can feed foods soaked in focus AMG antibiotics such as metroplex and see if that helps if he is still eating. Otherwise it’s wait and pray!

 

[Borgie234]

You can feed foods soaked in focus AMG antibiotics such as metroplex and see if that helps if he is still eating. Otherwise it’s wait and pray!

unfortunately, he is not eating and hasnt been for about a week now (since he developed this lump), would taking him out of the tank he is in now and treating him with metro in the water be a good idea? or will the stress of moving tanks again be too overwhelming

 

[4FordFamily]

unfortunately, he is not eating and hasnt been for about a week now (since he developed this lump), would taking him out of the tank he is in now and treating him with metro in the water be a good idea? or will the stress of moving tanks again be too overwhelming

Hard to know for sure, but I guess if what's going on now has not worked, and you did lance the fish and it seemingly did not work, he may need the antibiotic for healing to starve off infection.

 

[Borgie234]

Hard to know for sure, but I guess if what's going on now has not worked, and you did lance the fish and it seemingly did not work, he may need the antibiotic for healing to starve off infection.

ok I will put him back into QT once i get home from work, would you recommend using metro as the antibiotic? I did use iodide after lancing him, before putting him back into the DT

 

[4FordFamily]

ok I will put him back into QT once i get home from work, would you recommend using metro as the antibiotic? I did use iodide after lancing him, before putting him back into the DT

Metroplex, kanaplex, and furan 2 in conjunction would cover a wide range of possible infections. If an internal infection is at play it may help with this as well. If it makes it 14 days, report back on improvements.

 

[Borgie234]

Metroplex, kanaplex, and furan 2 in conjunction would cover a wide range of possible infections. If an internal infection is at play it may help with this as well. If it makes it 14 days, report back on improvements.

Will do, thank you for all your help!!

 

[4FordFamily]

Will do, thank you for all your help!!

No problem, that’s what I am here for!

Good luck!

 

[LAReefer4Life]

Hows the tang?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Furan and neomyacin would be effective as his bladder likely infected hence not eating and swimming erratically.
Advice from 4fordfamily on track

 

[Borgie234]

Hows the tang?

Still the same, got him into QT and started treating with metro, and kanaplex waiting on the Furan-2, to get in and then ill start with that as well. Thanks for asking

 

[LAReefer4Life]

Good luck! Keep us posted please.