**** R2R Par Database ****

[FLReef32043]

Adding my two cents

Type of meter you are using for measurements: Seneye Reef
Type of lighting.. be specific as possible and include things like manufacturer, age, length and type of bulbs for those t5 users, wattage and reflectors for the MH users.: Aquatic Life 48" DX18 - controlled by Apex for light regimen - 100% Inner / 100% Outer at the time of the photo and PAR readings - 4 54W ATI bulbs - Blue Plus / Actinic paired as "Inner" and Coral Plus / Purple Plus paired as "Outer" - all four bulbs approaching two months installed.
LED users if possible include percentages used for different colors: Current USA LED (not sure which model) with RGB LEDs at 100% and White at 90%. This is about two and a half years old.
Height of lighting over your water: 12"
Depth of water: 21"
Pumps or power heads running?: Running
Any other factors that may contribute to readings such as room lighting, windows, tank in sunroom? etc.: Ambient light coming from the "wall of window" but the sun was on the opposite side of the house and there was not a significant amount of direct light into the room. I am working on a custom canopy (I work slow ) and there are currently no sides and some light leaks into the room.
A picture with measurements would be ideal but a list/description would be fine as well. See picture
Provide as many collection points as possible such as bottom of tank left, right and center.. middle of tank left, right, center, front and back etc. See mark up of the readings

I recently purchased my T5/LED hybrid fixture to accommodate my perceived need for improved lighting. I was pleasantly surprised to see the results. I may actually have to tone down my lighting a little bit as I plan on running a softy/LPS mixed tank and a lot of my research is low to moderate lighting. Based on what I am seeing I have mostly high lighting PAR in the tank. Although I have to admit my Rhodactis on the right is fully loving that spot with 213 PAR.

 

[SunnyX]

I setup a small display tank in home office. I plan to make it SPS dominate.

Being as this is my first time using LEDs I borrowed a PAR meter from my LFS. In the past I would simply place the corals anywhere I wanted in the display as I was running more than enough lighting with MH and T5. I was unsure if these two fixtures would provide enough PAR so that is why I tested. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have bothered. In all the years I’ve been reefing I never checked for PAR. I simply looked for signs from the corals concerning placement.

Based on my results, I’m glad I didn’t grab a third XR15.I like a very white look to my display so I am very happy with the current settings. With the PAR tested I should have no issues placing SPS just about anywhere in the display.

• Tank size:
• 36"x18"x18”
• Type of meter you are using for measurements:
• Seneye
• Type of lighting:
• Two Gen 5 XR15 Radions
• LED users if possible include percentages used for different colors:
• 100 intensity. All channels run at 100% except red & green, both 30%
• Height of lighting over your water:
• RMS Arms(9”)
• Depth of water:
• 16" (rimless)
• Pumps or power heads running?
• Yes. Everything on.

Surface measurements(just under waterline) are listed in black text.

Rockworks highest point is 9” from the water surface.

 

[boacvh]

Here are my readings. Measured with the seneye on my 75g mixed reef. Tank has two kessil a360x. With the below settings and running the lunar mode (pardon the handwriting)
The picture I used below was a recent FTS I had which looks darker but the par readings noted correspond to the 4:30pm setting. Full daylight.

7:00am Clr=0, Int=1, Vi=0 R=0, G=0

11:00am Clr=10, Int=30, Vi=10 R=5, G=5

2:00pm Clr=30, Int=70, Vi=70 R=15, G=15

4:30pm Clr=60, Int=85, Vi=85 R=20, G=20

7:00pm Clr=30, Int=70, Vi=70 R=15, G=15

9:00pm Clr=0, Int=10, Vi=5 R=0, G=0

10:00pm Clr=0, Int=1, Vi=0 R=0, G=0

12:00pm Clr=0, Int=0, Vi=0 R=0, G=0

 

[Retro Reefer]

Thanks everyone! Keep those numbers coming

 

[gfd71]

This is a great thread!

I’m renting a par meter this week and will get measurements for my new gen 5 blues on my 36x18x21 tank.

I think I’ll do a few variations to provide as much info as possible

 

[canadianeh]

RedSea Reefer 250
Length 35.5"
Height 21"
Width 20"

Two Radion XR15 Gen 4
8.5" Off The Water - NOT Off the top of the rim on the tank
Par Tested with Apogee MQ-510

Flow Left On
Two MP10qWD on Back Wall
Neptune COR20 at 45%

Since flow was on I left the meter in the same location for a few seconds. I let the numbers jump around and picked the most consecutive reading.

Adding to this wonderful resource. I rented a PAR meter and took some measurements in the tank

• Type of meter you are using for measurements- MQ-510
• Type of lighting- Radion XR30 Pro gen4 with diffuser
• LED users if possible include percentages used for different colors- Screenshot of settings added.
• Height of lighting over your water- Using the RMS arm. Sits about 8.5 inches above the water level
• Depth of water- 18 inches
• Pumps or power heads running? Return Pump and powerheads running

The tank is a reefer 250- 36x20x21 The question. Can an single XR30 Pro light a reefer 250?

I mapped out 6 inch by 6 inch sections of the tank and held the meter in a few spots in each section then took a general average of the PAR readings in the area (This was an eyeball estimate and not an calculated mean).

First settings is pretty close to AB+ with a bit less warm white at 40% intensity. The grids will be 6"x 6" sections looking from the top down of the tank. (na indicates a rockwork was in the way)

Top 6"

34	100	240	180	65	30
35	150	260	240	125	30
20	82	155	150	70	10

6"-12"

35	75	130	150	55	30
55	115	160	160	90	45
45	90	130	145	60	35

12"- Sand

45	na	na	na	50	40
50	na	115	115	70	50
60	95	105	120	90	55

Settings

Since I want to start to add some SPS these numbers were not exactly where I wanted them to be so I settled at about 68% intensity. Those numbers look like this

Top 6"

45	175	350	270	90	35
75	260	440	380	215	60
40	100	180	180	100	35

6"-12"

65	132	200	215	80	65
85	230	255	260	125	60
70	150	225	220	115	70

12"-Sand

65	na	na	na	80	65
80	na	185	160	120	60
95	145	165	170	137	90

Settings

Here is a shot of the tank with some more sample numbers with the 68% intensity settings above. So can a single XR30 pro gen 4 light a reefer 250. I would say yes with some conditions. Lower outer ends will get pretty low in par but still plenty for softies etc.

I have the meter for another day or two so if anyone has any requests let me know and I will take some more readings.

I setup a small display tank in home office. I plan to make it SPS dominate.

Being as this is my first time using LEDs I borrowed a PAR meter from my LFS. In the past I would simply place the corals anywhere I wanted in the display as I was running more than enough lighting with MH and T5. I was unsure if these two fixtures would provide enough PAR so that is why I tested. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have bothered. In all the years I’ve been reefing I never checked for PAR. I simply looked for signs from the corals concerning placement.

Based on my results, I’m glad I didn’t grab a third XR15.I like a very white look to my display so I am very happy with the current settings. With the PAR tested I should have no issues placing SPS just about anywhere in the display.

• Tank size:
• 36"x18"x18”
• Type of meter you are using for measurements:
• Seneye
• Type of lighting:
• Two Gen 5 XR15 Radions
• LED users if possible include percentages used for different colors:
• 100 intensity. All channels run at 100% except red & green, both 30%
• Height of lighting over your water:
• RMS Arms(9”)
• Depth of water:
• 16" (rimless)
• Pumps or power heads running?
• Yes. Everything on.

Surface measurements(just under waterline) are listed in black text.

Rockworks highest point is 9” from the water surface.

I have the same tank and am using two Gen 5 XR 15 Blue. What I would like to know from all of you and perhaps the instruction on the OP can be adjusted as well is what's the distance from one light to another? I think everyone needs to put this information on as well.

 

[SunnyX]

I have the same tank and am using two Gen 5 XR 15 Blue. What I would like to know from all of you and perhaps the instruction on the OP can be adjusted as well is what's the distance from one light to another? I think everyone needs to put this information on as well.

Hi!

My lights are about 10" from each side of the display tank. However, the light on the right side is 3-4" more towards the back of the tank than the light on the left. The great thing about these RMS mounts is I can slide the lights front to back so that I am not wasting light on the sandbed and that the corals are properly lit.

 

[FoolintheRain]

These photos were taken right after I got set up and do not reflect the settings that these were taken under.

• Type of meter you are using for measurements - Seneye
• Type of lighting - Reefbreeders Photon 48-V2+
• Height of lighting over your water - 18" to waterline
• Depth of water - 22"-23"
• Pumps or power heads running? - Pumps and Powerheads running
• Tank Size - 62" x 31.5" x 28" Peninsula

Ch1 (Red): 5%
CH2 (Green): 5%
CH3 (Royal Blue): 65%
Ch4 (White): 25%
CH5 (Cool Blue): 45%
CH6 (Violet): 65%

 

[Octane13]

40 Breeder
Photon V2+ 24 @ 12" mounting height
Power heads and returns running
*BRS -MQ-510 (rental)* average readings

Also attached the schedule and full par numbers I took

 

[Octane13]

10 gallon (aqueon)
HIPARGERO LED 30W - amazon $70
4" mounting height (standard bracket cut down to center over tank)
Full blue two clicks down on white

 

[Octane13]

40 Breeder
36" Aquatic Life T5 Hybrid (T5 only) - 2 Blue +, 1 actinic and one coral + ALL ATI approx 8 mo. old
mounting height = 9"
Power heads and returns running
*BRS -MQ-510 (rental)* average

RED = Front
Grn = Middle
Yel = Back

 

[Octane13]

6ft 125 gallon

48" Reef Breeders Photon V2 (left)
24" Photon V2 + (right)

~11" above the water
MP40's and return pump on normal schedule

BRS rented MQ-510 (averages)

I all readings in the pictures with the tank were taken at "peak" or highest intensities. The spreadsheet shows during the 1600 hr (ramp down). I have also included the schedule for anyone interested.
Been running this schedule and the ones posted above for about two weeks. Corals have responded well to the drop in intensity. (the small number that are in the tank)

 

[brawthy]

Hey all,

would it be possible to request someone to do a quick par check at various grid points, provided you specify model, settings, and position?

thanks!

 

[nano reef]

Red Sea Reefer 250 SPS dominant

Type of meter you are using for measurements
Seneye Reef

Type of lighting.
X2 Radion XR15 Pro Gen 4 on AB+ @ 65% 10:00-22:00, including 2hr ramp up and down total 8hrs max exposure.

Height of lighting over your water
12”

Depth of water
50cm

Pumps or power heads running?
X1 MP40QD X1 MP10QD

those par readings at 65 % are super strong basicalllly stricky sps. i was seriously considering 2 15's on a 36 gallon bowfront and i wouldnt mind sopme sps but mostly lps and softies. Might better rethink this. I would;d be paying for par i dont need but I do plan to move them to a 90 or 120 gallon soon and buy one more!

 

[nano reef]

I had the chance to rent a PAR meter today (Thanks, Donny and crew at Wet Pets in Vernon, CT). This message is a bit long, but with lots of photos documenting the various settings and lighting heights I examined. Enjoy!

• Type of meter you are using for measurements: Biotek Marine BTM3000 (manufactured by Apogee, looks to be the same as the Apogee SQ-420)
• Type of lighting: 2 AI Hydra HD, new in June 2019
• LED users if possible include percentages used for different colors: see below. I measured PAR for several different spectra
• Height of lighting over your water: see below. I measured PAR at 3 heights.
• Depth of water: 21" max. Tank is a Waterbox 130.4, 48L x 24"W x 22H
• Pumps or power heads running? no
• Any other factors that may contribute to readings such as room lighting, windows, tank in sunroom? etc.

First picture is of the tank (on whites & blues for photo) with water depths (in ") at which measurements were taken.

Next, I measured PAR with all channels at 100% (UV, violet, royal blue, blue, green, deep red, & white). Three heights of lights above water level: 12", 8" & 6". ABL on figures is above water level.

Next I adjusted the lighting to what I think is the highest-intensity setting during my daily program:

With PAR measurements for this setting at 12", 8" and 6":

Next I adjusted the lighting to heavily-blues setting I run as part of my program:

And measured PAR again at 12", 8" and 6":

Lastly I tested one final lighting setting, maxxing out the blues as much as I could:

And measured PAR, but only at 6" depth:

I'm still digesting what this all means. At first cut, the PAR across the board was not as high as I was expecting. I don't like to run with much whites, so these data might make me rethink that.

Are you usingthe hydra 32 or 64 and how high are they mounted! I really wish they based the 32 like they do the 64! ^4 just looks to big and overwhelming. But only 600.00 and the 32 are 400 and some change. I need the 32 but for that I may as well go radion because the 14's are only 50 more but the 30's are over 200 more!

 

[nano reef]

• Meter: MQ-510 Full Spectrum Underwater LED PAR Meter (rented from BRS)
• Tank: Red Sea Reefer 525 XL
• Lighting Type: 2x Orphek Atlantik v4s
• Mounting Height: 15" from water
• Water Depth: 22"
• Pumps and Powerhead Off
• Misc: Tank is set up in the corner of a room. Two small skylights provide some light from the top, and a large door wall provides additional light to the right of the tank. Neither of these sources provided direct sunlight during measurements, though.

Readings were taken with two settings. First was setting 100% on all channels. Second was setting to the "Coral Color + Growth" setting and measuring at the peak.

Excellent lights! I ended up turning them down quite a bit, but gives me the flexibility to have a sweet SPS side and a sweet LPS side by setting the power differently on each unit.

@Orphek @James Emory

Does orphek sell those mounts for those lights or did you rig up some others to work? They look awesome. I wonder if they would work on another brands like reefbreeders or ocean revive. Cant afford those lights if I ever want to buy more coral...lol

 

[nano reef]

Anyone have par on a noopschye and pics of tank? Love to see them. Help me decide between, ocean revive and noop, maybe reef breeders even considering radion 15" and hydra. I would go for hydra , BUT the 2 puck 32'2 are 50 bucks less than radion 15's But when you jump up higher the 64 hydra are 600 where the radion 30 is 800 so radion is 200 more when you go up in size. Thats whats stopping me! I dont want the bigger ones since I am startying them in a small tank, but plan on upgrading toa 12- in less than a year. I also dont like the fac tthat hydra's are supposed too be mounted so high. I have been basing my shopping on youtubes basically. None of the lfs around me have anything but hydra and kessil, and the radions are older and way up high on a frag tank. Noopschye looks real nice on you tubes. The colors and all but looks blurry inmost tanks for some reason. I almost ordered them today! Wish I could ordered one of each and try them the send back what I dont want...lol

 

[proxy001]

• Type of meter : apogee 510
• Type of lighting..
• manufacturer:Ecotech RADION XR30 PRO GEN5
• LED users :AB+ unmodified (100% blues, 24% others), 75% schedule intensity. (Graph about 60%)
• Height of lighting over your water:9" AWL
• Depth of water: 24 inches
• Pumps or power heads running: 4 return nozzles, 2 powerheads
• Any other factors that may contribute to readings: dark day outside, no sunlight in the room, water clarity about average
• 

 

[xxoczukxx]

I setup a small display tank in home office. I plan to make it SPS dominate.

Being as this is my first time using LEDs I borrowed a PAR meter from my LFS. In the past I would simply place the corals anywhere I wanted in the display as I was running more than enough lighting with MH and T5. I was unsure if these two fixtures would provide enough PAR so that is why I tested. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have bothered. In all the years I’ve been reefing I never checked for PAR. I simply looked for signs from the corals concerning placement.

Based on my results, I’m glad I didn’t grab a third XR15.I like a very white look to my display so I am very happy with the current settings. With the PAR tested I should have no issues placing SPS just about anywhere in the display.

• Tank size:
• 36"x18"x18”
• Type of meter you are using for measurements:
• Seneye
• Type of lighting:
• Two Gen 5 XR15 Radions
• LED users if possible include percentages used for different colors:
• 100 intensity. All channels run at 100% except red & green, both 30%
• Height of lighting over your water:
• RMS Arms(9”)
• Depth of water:
• 16" (rimless)
• Pumps or power heads running?
• Yes. Everything on.

Surface measurements(just under waterline) are listed in black text.

Rockworks highest point is 9” from the water surface.

Any chance you can get readings with only one xr15 on? I have one over a 20x20 cube but even on max point and schedule intensity on ab+ im getting maybe 350-400 par at surface, 9” under the light and 7 inches under that im getting 160/170 on my rockwork so im not sure if im setting it up wrong or its just one xr15 isnt that strong

 

[dtrick]

• Meter: Syneye Reef
• Lighting.. XR30 Pro and XR15 Pro
• LED percentages:
• Cool White - 50%
  Blue - 100%
  Royal - 100%
  Green - 15%
  Red - 15%
  UV - 100%
  Warm White - 20
  Violet - 52%
• Height of lighting: 14" apart and 9" above the tank with the Radion mounting brackets. XR30 is mounted on left side facing tank and XR15 on the right.
• Depth of water: 22"
• Pumps or power heads running? YES
• Any other factors that may contribute to readings such as room lighting, windows, tank in sunroom? Clear Mesh cover on the tank