Redsea Reef-Frame

[Levi623]

Has anyone got or seen in person the new Redsea Reef-Frame? I'm about to get a 500 and interested in some views other than "don't get Redsea because of failures of other/older models". Yes they've had a lot of issues, but the appear to have been addressed with the design of this model - Thanks in advance for any helpful feedback

 

[exnisstech]

Not what you asked for so feel free to ignore me. I wouldn't put another redsea tank in my home, I don't care what improvements they've made. They've denied the problems they have and anyone who wants to discuss the failures gets banned from the RS Facebook page. Their behavior and mishandling of the situation with all the failures along with lying about it all is reason enough for me not to ever purchase another RS tank. Add to that I've had a Gen 2 reefer 170 and Gen 2 reefer 300 fail. I'm not playing three strikes and out, two is enough for me.
I highly recommend you spend a little time researching all the failures and how red sea has mishandled the situation before deciding spend thousands with the company. Redsea has the best marketing department in the industry IMO but that quality doesn't extend to their tanks regardless of the BS they spew and the supposed improvement.
If you want to ignore all the warning signs and believe RS has fixed the problem then I wish you luck but caveat emptor.
FWIW the cause of the failures is the two part silicone they use not the tank designs.

 

[Levi623]

Not what you asked for so feel free to ignore me. I wouldn't put another redsea tank in my home, I don't care what improvements they've made. They've denied the problems they have and anyone who wants to discuss the failures gets banned from the RS Facebook page. Their behavior and mishandling of the situation with all the failures along with lying about it all is reason enough for me not to ever purchase another RS tank. Add to that I've had a Gen 2 reefer 170 and Gen 2 reefer 300 fail. I'm not playing three strikes and out, two is enough for me.
I highly recommend you spend a little time researching all the failures and how red sea has mishandled the situation before deciding spend thousands with the company. Redsea has the best marketing department in the industry IMO but that quality doesn't extend to their tanks regardless of the BS they spew and the supposed improvement.
If you want to ignore all the warning signs and believe RS has fixed the problem then I wish you luck but caveat emptor.
FWIW the cause of the failures is the two part silicone they use not the tank designs.

Thanks, but I'm just after knowing if anyone has seen one in the flesh or owns one and has an opinion on the practicality of the tank.

I say this respectfully, I specifically asked to not have replies of opinions on Redsea as a company or comments on their aftersales service from models other than the Reef-Frame. I wish you luck, fellow reefer.

 

[Fish Fan]

Thanks, but I'm just after knowing if anyone has seen one in the flesh or owns one and has an opinion on the practicality of the tank.

I say this respectfully, I specifically asked to not have replies of opinions on Redsea as a company or comments on their aftersales service from models other than the Reef-Frame. I wish you luck, fellow reefer.

I think you'll find that most members of R2R share the same opinion of Red Sea tanks as the previous poster.

I do hope you find the information you're looking for

Good luck!

 

[Mr.BobDobalina]

I have a question for the RS customers or soon to be customers; are there not any brands with a better reputation that suit your needs? I just find it baffling that so many support this comapny with so many options now available. I admit to purchasing their salt, but once I read up on their treatment of customers after failures, I refuse to give that company a dime and switched to a new, better product.

Good luck to you, but I'll echo the sentiment about not supporting bad behavior regardless of whether they fixed the issue.

 

[X-37B]

I have seen them at the lfs that still has several RS systems running for many years.
They look nice but behond that not much to comment on as I did not look close enough at the new model.
I can look at one if its still up. They sell alot of systems.
Lfs is 1 mile away.
What specifically are you interested in?

 

[Levi623]

I have seen them at the lfs that still has several RS systems running for many years.
They look nice but behond that not much to comment on as I did not look close enough at the new model.
I can look at one if its still up. They sell alot of systems.
Lfs is 1 mile away.
What specifically are you interested in?

Thanks, I’m interested in knowing if there any features included in the reef-frame model that are worth a mention, or more importantly if there are any omitted features worth commenting on.

It’s brand new and I’m interested in some review-worth information.

In response to the other replies: I understand your views on Redsea and the recent history, but come on guys, respect the thread… that’s not the topic of discussion here.

 

[exnisstech]

We won't know for sure if the problem is fixed until a few years have passed with the tanks filled. Any meaningful reviews about reliability at this point in time are meaningless. Sure you can review the changes but thats already published information.

 

[Mr.BobDobalina]

Thanks, I’m interested in knowing if there any features included in the reef-frame model that are worth a mention, or more importantly if there are any omitted features worth commenting on.

It’s brand new and I’m interested in some review-worth information.

In response to the other replies: I understand your views on Redsea and the recent history, but come on guys, respect the thread… that’s not the topic of discussion here.

I understand and met no disrespect, but am curious if you have considered a different brand

 

[UncommonSense]

I have noticed that the Reef Frame tank line (vs. the G3 Reefer line) explicitly markets “euro silicone”, which is vague, but would indicate it’s at least different in composition from their usual junk… also, the Reef Frame systems stop at 500L max size, indicating that RS doesn’t trust the design for larger tanks, or doesn’t want to compete with their own “premium” Reefer line…

On a positive note, it looks like the 500L model is a nice step up in structural safety factor! It’s the first RS tank I’ve calculated safety factor for which exceeds a minimum threshold of 3.8, at 4.08SF!

If these were being built by a reputable manufacturer, I’d be more inclined to trust one in my home… as it is, this seems to be RS still desperately trying to get ahead of bad PR after going through four generations of Reefer aquariums in 3-4 years… creating a new line of tanks which explicitly markets being “different” from their usual Reefer lineup…