Reef Roids or Dose Phosphate?

[Medinato]

I have a 75gallon display (90 gallon total volume) SPS dominated tank that is about 4 month old. Getting good color and growth from my SPS but have been having very low nutrients (undetectable Nirtrate and Phosphate). I started to does about 10ml a day of Neophos and Neonitro which has raised my nitrate to about 3.5ppm and held there for the last 3 weeks or so but my phosphate is still undetectable. I am running low on Neophos and will need to buy a new bottle soon but was thinking about switching over to feeding Reef Roids as a more "natural" way to raise phosphates.

I currently am feeding my tank LRS Reef Frenzy daily and about 10ml of Reef Energy AB+ daily as well. Along with an occasional sprinkling of TDO Chromaboost pellets

My tank is reasonably stocked with 8 fish

Any thoughts/Advice?

 

[UMALUM]

If it were me I'd switch to TM plus NP and Bacto Balance. After a little research I think you'll be very happy. Reef roids is garbage. :winking-face:

 

[afboundguy]

Do you have visible nuscience algae with the low nutrients or low nutrients and no visible nuscience algae?

 

[Bohemian Waxwing]

Reef roids is garbage. :winking-face:

strong disagree

 

[Troylee]

Depends how much money you wanna spend.. ammonia bicarbonate for nitrates and trisodium phosphate for p04 is a good combo and very cheap! Reef roids is great for raising p04 also but it’s pricey.

 

[DanyL]

Get Trisodium Phosphate, or Calcium Phosphate.

The concentrations of commercial phosphate additives are ridiculously low, and they are usually based on Potassium, meaning you’re also slowly elevating it as a byproduct.

As for reef roids - If used regularly such as in elevating your PO4 levels daily, it can lead to an outbreak of Spinoids, Vermitted snails and other opportunistic filter feeders, so I would be cautious using it for that purpose.

 

[Medinato]

Thanks for the feedback.

@afboundguy I had a case of what I think was crysophytes which is what prompted my purchase of the Brightwell Neo products. It seems to have worked well with those disappearing. My acropora are also starting to color up and I am getting growth (basing out mostly).

 

[josh57]

Phosphate is a predictable rise to phosphate level. Reef Roids it is hard to get a consistent enough dosing regimen to not have your phosphates be a roller coaster ride. In my case at least.

 

[UMALUM]

As for reef roids - If used regularly such as in elevating your PO4 levels daily, it can lead to an outbreak of Spinoids, Vermitted snails and other opportunistic filter feeders, so I would be cautious using it for that purpose.

Thank you

 

[Bohemian Waxwing]

Thank you

What he said was not what you said.

What’s your tank look like? You seem to have very strong opinions about everything, I’m curious to see the results.

Not that I don’t trust you but there are a lot of opinionated people on here who never post their tank.

@DanyL ’s frag tank is gorgeous one of my favs on here.

 

[afboundguy]

Thanks for the feedback.

@afboundguy I had a case of what I think was crysophytes which is what prompted my purchase of the Brightwell Neo products. It seems to have worked well with those disappearing. My acropora are also starting to color up and I am getting growth

What' your tank looks like?

I asked about nuscience algae as if you had some with low levels of nutrients I would say you still have a nutrient issue it's just the nuscience algae is consuming it all...

 

[Poseidon03]

Why not increase pellet feeding? I use LRO pellets and they seem to keep my phosphates elevated.

I had the same 0 N & 0 P issue when I started my sps dominate about 3 years ago. Then, all of a sudden my nitrates went from 1ppm to 70ppm in 2 weeks. I was dosing neonitro daily at the time. My buddy's tank did the same thing to him, but he was dosing ammonia. Just a forewarning to keep a close eye on it.

 

[UMALUM]

What he said was not what you said.

What’s your tank look like? You seem to have very strong opinions about everything, I’m curious to see the results.

Not that I don’t trust you but there are a lot of opinionated people on here who never post their tank.

@DanyL ’s frag tank is gorgeous one of my favs on here.

If the op cared enough about my opinion I would have been more than happy to voice everything Dany said and more. My opinion is and some say its fact that the concentration of byproducts it contains are more harmful than good.
I believe I've posted several pics over the course of this build when I felt they were relevant enough or someone might enjoy them including a couple in troylees latest thread. My apologies if I struck a nerve but I'm not getting into a sword fight over something so trivial or posting pictures on someone else's thread to make you happy.

 

[Bohemian Waxwing]

If the op cared enough about my opinion I would have been more than happy to voice everything Dany said and more. My opinion is and some say its fact that the concentration of byproducts it contains are more harmful than good.
I believe I've posted several pics over the course of this build when I felt they were relevant enough or someone might enjoy them including a couple in troylees latest thread. My apologies if I struck a nerve but I'm not getting into a sword fight over something so trivial or posting pictures on someone else's thread to make you happy.

I am here to defend the Reef Roid's honour

 

[UMALUM]

I am here to defend the Reef Roid's honour

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All joking aside, if your gonna defend it you might wanna know what's actually in it. There's a couple good threads on central from years ago breaking it down.

 

[Pistondog]

feeding more is a good solution to raising nutrient levels. Reef roids is very high in po4, and could be used to raise po4, and other nutrients.

 

[Featherweight]

I think we need more trees here. And roids for trees arbor day