Should I dose Cipro after BJD?

rlx

New Member
View Badges
Joined
Aug 23, 2018
Messages
16
Reaction score
6
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I had a single headed torch showing signs of BJD, so I put it in quarantine and it was gone by the next day. That was a week ago and I haven't noticed any other corals showing signs. I finally got some ciprofloxacin and am wondering should I go ahead dose the tank as a precaution?
 

KrisReef

Last to get paid.
View Badges
Joined
May 15, 2018
Messages
22,082
Reaction score
39,131
Location
Vatican & Las Vegas Penthouse Quarters
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
Interesting.
BJD usually takes a head at a time, without mercy. That your single head didn't die suggests that either you didn't have BJD or else the movement from DT to QT somehow allowed the single head to survive BJD, an amazing report if it was sick.

I suspect that the single head may have been taking a dump (brown cloud from the mouth) and that it didn't have BJD. IF it wasn't taking a dump, it fought off the BJD and would seem to have shown immune reaction that allowed it to live (Novel report.)

I would put the torch back into the DT and observe how it reacts, and assume that it will not have a relapse/ die from BJD. Keep the Cipro handy in case BJD does appear, but I don't think that was what your torch was dealing with.
 
OP
OP
R

rlx

New Member
View Badges
Joined
Aug 23, 2018
Messages
16
Reaction score
6
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Interesting.
BJD usually takes a head at a time, without mercy. That your single head didn't die suggests that either you didn't have BJD or else the movement from DT to QT somehow allowed the single head to survive BJD, an amazing report if it was sick.

I suspect that the single head may have been taking a dump (brown cloud from the mouth) and that it didn't have BJD. IF it wasn't taking a dump, it fought off the BJD and would seem to have shown immune reaction that allowed it to live (Novel report.)

I would put the torch back into the DT and observe how it reacts, and assume that it will not have a relapse/ die from BJD. Keep the Cipro handy in case BJD does appear, but I don't think that was what your torch was dealing with.
Sorry for the confusion. By "gone the next day" I was meaning the torch was no more. It didn't survive.
 

KrisReef

Last to get paid.
View Badges
Joined
May 15, 2018
Messages
22,082
Reaction score
39,131
Location
Vatican & Las Vegas Penthouse Quarters
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
Sorry for the confusion. By "gone the next day" I was meaning the torch was no more. It didn't survive.
Thanks, sorry.

If you don't have any other LPS then the BJD (bacteria) isn't going to hurt other corals. It wouldn't hurt to dose the Cipro, just to get after the BJD bacteria but I don't know that it's necessary to do, especially if you wait a few weeks before adding another LPS?
 
OP
OP
R

rlx

New Member
View Badges
Joined
Aug 23, 2018
Messages
16
Reaction score
6
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Thanks, sorry.

If you don't have any other LPS then the BJD (bacteria) isn't going to hurt other corals. It wouldn't hurt to dose the Cipro, just to get after the BJD bacteria but I don't know that it's necessary to do, especially if you wait a few weeks before adding another LPS?
I have about a dozen other LPS colonies in the tank. This was a new torch that I picked up that came with some eefw eggs I didn't catch when dipping. They did a number on it, but wanted to try and see if it would pull through. I guess the damage was just a little too much which I guess led to the BJD.
 

KrisReef

Last to get paid.
View Badges
Joined
May 15, 2018
Messages
22,082
Reaction score
39,131
Location
Vatican & Las Vegas Penthouse Quarters
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
I have about a dozen other LPS colonies in the tank. This was a new torch that I picked up that came with some eefw eggs I didn't catch when dipping. They did a number on it, but wanted to try and see if it would pull through. I guess the damage was just a little too much which I guess led to the BJD.
I would treat this tank. When one head has died from BJD, very often within a few days to a week the next LPS head will get taken out as the disease moves about the tank.
 

Naso180!

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Mar 28, 2021
Messages
426
Reaction score
495
Location
Tallahassee
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I have about a dozen other LPS colonies in the tank. This was a new torch that I picked up that came with some eefw eggs I didn't catch when dipping. They did a number on it, but wanted to try and see if it would pull through. I guess the damage was just a little too much which I guess led to the BJD.
If you saw,flat worms that killed it then it was most likely not BJD but a secondary infection from them consuming parts of the torch. Id watch and be sure they didn't spread to other euphyllia/fimbraphyllia in the tank. No need to use antibiotics and disrupt your bacteria populations in the display as a precaution. Just watch closely for the flat worms and dip coral accordingly should more show up.
 

mike_mania

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 14, 2024
Messages
235
Reaction score
205
Location
Deltona Florida
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Im glad I found this thread.

Woke to this morning to a hammer covered in BJD Slime. Pulled it and instant skeleton. Didn’t realize it happened so fast.

Having said that, the hammer was on a rack with 4 other hammers and I have 3 torches (LPS dominant tank). I did a 10 gallon w/c (40 breeder with 20 L sump). I added 1 C of carbon to the return. Nothing appears receded. I have a 10 L that is available for a QT, and a friend of mine runs a vet clinic and seeing if she gave her me cipro prescribed.

I’m headed out of town Tuesday and returning Friday.

Tell me I’ll be okay…. 🥴🥴
 

Lavey29

10K Club member
View Badges
Joined
Apr 29, 2021
Messages
15,161
Reaction score
16,352
Location
United States
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
BJD is typically caused by something being significantly off in the tank environment. The stress caused coral immune systems to be compromised thus allowing BJD to get a foothold. It can also be introduced by adding a new coral that is already infected. Shipping causes stress in new corals. Euphyllia are the primary targets for BJD. Ciprofloaxin can be effective but you will kill your good bacteria along with the bad.
 

mike_mania

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 14, 2024
Messages
235
Reaction score
205
Location
Deltona Florida
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
BJD is typically caused by something being significantly off in the tank environment. The stress caused coral immune systems to be compromised thus allowing BJD to get a foothold. It can also be introduced by adding a new coral that is already infected. Shipping causes stress in new corals. Euphyllia are the primary targets for BJD. Ciprofloaxin can be effective but you will kill your good bacteria along with the bad.
I’ve had the hammers for ~8 months.
Alk- 8.9
Po4- .11
No3- 9.9

These have been the most recent numbers. I haven’t added any euphyllia since probably July. Tank has been up for 2 years February.

I was reading I can remove the frags and dose the cipro in a QT tank so I don’t lose my microfauna. Agreed?
 

Lavey29

10K Club member
View Badges
Joined
Apr 29, 2021
Messages
15,161
Reaction score
16,352
Location
United States
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I’ve had the hammers for ~8 months.
Alk- 8.9
Po4- .11
No3- 9.9

These have been the most recent numbers. I haven’t added any euphyllia since probably July. Tank has been up for 2 years February.

I was reading I can remove the frags and dose the cipro in a QT tank so I don’t lose my microfauna. Agreed?
Yes you can cipro bath individual corals while fragging off infected heads. There are quite a few other parameters than can cause stress. Have you done a recent ICP test to check everything?
 

TOP 10 Trending Threads

WHAT AMOUNT OF LIVE ROCK AND SAND SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED FOR OPTIMAL BIODIVERSITY/FILTRATION?

  • 100% live rock + bagged sand

    Votes: 34 27.0%
  • 100% dry rock + 100% live sand

    Votes: 45 35.7%
  • 50/50 live/dry rock, 50/50 live/bagged sand

    Votes: 27 21.4%
  • 75% live rock, 25% live sand

    Votes: 11 8.7%
  • 25% live rock, 75% live sand

    Votes: 9 7.1%
Back
Top