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I was mostly interested in your opinion - as to (lets say besides diet - and people buying them in the wrong tank) - why they do not do well.
Why is there ammonia in the tank? This is a red flag and possibly the issue, maybe probably. If he has been exposed to .35 ammonia longterm, that is not good! Put sechem prime in now to neutralize the ammonia. Has everybody else missed this???
curious - with the liver disease you've noticed - have you ever biopsied - had histology done?Caret surfing, chemical exposure, diet. I;ve posted threads in the Predatory Forum in reference to diet for those interested. People also feed them too frequently which has been known to cause fatty liver. Eels can live through lfs dosing sub-therapeutic levels of copper, prophylactic copper treatment in qt's, and even full blown copper treatment but will pay for it later. Antibiotics also seem to have a delayed negative effect, and are many times are not warranted. Injuries that many treat with antibiotics would heal on their own if in optimum water conditions and fed a healthy diet, recommending live food while recovering. They can survive the tank cleaners and eradication chemicals like flat worm exit, etc; but again will pay for it later. Believe it or not carpet surfing is the #1 killer. Internal parasites are very common and they can tolerate the treatment, general cure or paracleanse in the water column. But many people teach others about how hunger strikes are normal, while this is the #1 indicator for internal parasites. So if you can keep them in the tank; keep a clean, chemical(meds are chemicals too) free tank, and feed a fresh varied diet limited in thiaminese; they will live well into the teens.
You’re the nasty one, 100%.You are right lion killer there should be 0 ammonia and that is a big concern. All the other points I made are valid and there is no need to be nasty with me because you won't take personal responsibility when you kill your lions.
Never heard of carbon dosing removing trace or iodine. I’ll have to check into that. As for cloudy water. Just start with 1/4 to half the recommended. Has worked for me and cloudiness only lasted a day when I pushed the limits. Only once did o find fish gasping for air. Was odd because that dose was lower than I I’d experimented with in the past.NoPox will turn water cloudy but moreso is that not only will it make your skimmer go crazy but it will remove traces of iodine and various trace elements in which you will have to replenish them and also create excessive skimmate removing certain nutrients and even bottom them out.
Water change will reduce nitrate and restore the elements.
Well, initial results show that somehow, my Nitrates are off the friggin charts, I'm redoing that because I honestly don't believe they're that high and I'm not experiencing a mass extinction... I just did a 33% water change a week ago, so I have no idea what's going on...
Ph: 8.1
Ammonia: .35
Nitrite: 0 (rock bottom... this concerns me)
Nitrate: >160 PPM (seriously, the vial went bright red in a minute. Redoing this currently)
Phosphate: 1-2
Calcium: 400
gasping for air because Carbon dosing can also lower the amount of oxygen in your tank. This will in turn lower your PH and your alkalinity.Never heard of carbon dosing removing trace or iodine. I’ll have to check into that. As for cloudy water. Just start with 1/4 to half the recommended. Has worked for me and cloudiness only lasted a day when I pushed the limits. Only once did o find fish gasping for air. Was odd because that dose was lower than I I’d experimented with in the past.
Don’t run a skimmer. System handles it just fine but I’ll check in my trace elements. Is that because of the excess skimmate being produced? Doesn’t seem logical it would be lost during denitrification
I understand that. I’m just saying I only saw that issue once yet at a lower dose than previously tested.gasping for air because Carbon dosing can also lower the amount of oxygen in your tank. This will in turn lower your PH and your alkalinity.
curious - with the liver disease you've noticed - have you ever biopsied - had histology done?
Please provide a source to this as I can’t find any and might explain why I’m struggling with coraline algae in a closed no WC system managed with denitrification assisted with carbon dosing.NoPox will turn water cloudy but moreso is that not only will it make your skimmer go crazy but it will remove traces of iodine and various trace elements …
100% agree.I started dissecting fish 25 years ago to figure out how they were dying. We rarely used chemicals but as time went by just as with humans chemicals started being used more and more. Other hobbyist would bring me their fish to do a necropsy and time and time again, I found damaged internal organs, hemorrhages, decomp, even liquified. Over time it was easy to find the common theme of copper, antibiotics, tank cleaners, and pest eradicators. As my focus became more to lions I found damaged livers beyond all else, Suspected cyanide fish would usually have hemorrhages and blood in the internal cavity. Copper is the evilest of all, sometimes liquifying the liver.
Please provide a source to this as I can’t find any and might explain why I’m struggling with coraline algae in a closed no WC system managed with denitrification assisted with carbon dosing.
That’s not what I asked for. I grasp the cause of cloudy water.Cloudy Water With Nopox - Salt Water Coral Tank
Nopox (No3Po4-X) is a popular nitrate control in marine tanks. One common issue with dosing Nopox is cloudy water. Learn how to clear it up.saltwatercoraltank.com
Hey guys! Update time, sorry, it's been a really frantic 12 hours. First off, this has been one of my favorite discussions to follow on here, I just wish it wasn't because my eel was dying. Thank you everyone for all the help, but things are getting really weird again.How is that Eel doing?
I tend to clean mine about once a month, though honestly, I'm not sure I'm even doing the cleaning correct. The process for me is as follows:Question, you are using a canister filter. Generally they aren't as bad as everyone makes them out to be as long as they are maintained. How long do you go in between cleaning it? I know were more towards the ammonia did the damage and I get that, just trying to help you achieve long term success. Canisters can be nitrate bombs if they aren't maintained regularly.
Im very sorry for the loss of your eel. Im very attached to mine as well and its a huge kick in the nuts when you lose an animal like that.