Sochting Oxydator - in layman terms, beneficial to corals or indifferent?

[ZoWhat]

Sochting Oxydator .... in layman terms, beneficial to corals or indifferent?

I'm using one a month in and know it might be a little early to draw a conclusion on its use.

I was hoping adding pure O2 to the water would be absorbed by coral and during their photosynthesis/ zooxanthellae production have a great "leg-up" with more O2 in the water.

I'm not looking for major stunning overnight improvements where im skipping down the street screaming utter praises to my neighbors

....but a little critical if it really doing anything beneficial for corals

Soooooo plz chime in....

The use of a Sochting;

* beneficial? If so how?

* indifferent to if it's there or not? Why?


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[jgirardnrg]

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[ZoWhat]

Hmmmm

 

[Dennis Cartier]

Have you read this thread? Anyone using Dr. Sochting's Oxydator

Dennis

 

[arking_mark]

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[PeterC99]

Can we see pics of your Zoas before and after you started the Oxydator?

 

[ZoWhat]

Well... hard to say bc as O2 is rising, Iodine is dropping

Just want to hear some SCIENCE behind a coral absorbing O2 to develop zooxanthellae

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[NDIrish]

What size is your tank and what size oxydator you using?
Where did you get it?

 

[dedragon]

Hmm interesting, i dont test my O2 or iodine levels, but i have noticed a drop in shrimp/hermit molting. I also use all for reef (AFR) which has some iodine but have recently dosed lugols more frequently to facilitate regular molting now (every 1.5-3.5 weeks is what i like to see) I also started using mine on an 80 gallon at 1 catalyst and 10% H2O2 around a month ago

 

[dedragon]

im hoping the increased o2 will help stabilize pH better and I wont have to use a co2 scrubber again(i dont have a pH controller so i dont want to risk it)

 

[PeterC99]

Brought to you by an Oxydator and by some fabulous zoas:

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I do not know of any reason to think it is beneficial to corals, except possibly if the peroxide makes the water clearer and they get more light.

Adding O2 has zero effect on pH.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Sochting Oxydator .... in layman terms, beneficial to corals or indifferent?

I'm using one a month in and know it might be a little early to draw a conclusion on its use.

I was hoping adding pure O2 to the water would be absorbed by coral and during their photosynthesis/ zooxanthellae production have a great "leg-up" with more O2 in the water.

I'm not looking for major stunning overnight improvements where im skipping down the street screaming utter praises to my neighbors

....but a little critical if it really doing anything beneficial for corals

Soooooo plz chime in....

The use of a Sochting;

* beneficial? If so how?

* indifferent to if it's there or not? Why?


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Photosynthesizing organisms in the light are sources of O2, not users. I cannot see that there's a benefit that time of day for them with more O2 in the water..

Maybe at night, if it is actually higher, there could be some benefit.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

The use of a Sochting;

* beneficial? If so how?

* indifferent to if it's there or not? Why?

No choice for not wanting it? Seems a bit biased...

Almost no users think about the complexities of oxidizing trace elements, and making them more or less bioavailable, more or less toxic.

It's not a simple win win, IMO. It might be beneficial, but do not just accept the oft-stated but overly simplistic O2 addition aspect as all it does.

 

[BanjoBandito]

I thought it was a poor man's ozone?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I thought it was a poor man's ozone?

That's a better way to think of it than an O2 addition scheme only.

Oxidizers have loads of different chemistry effects. not all are beneficial.

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 1: Chemistry and Biochemistry by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 2: Equipment and Safety by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 3: Changes in a Reef Aquarium upon Initiating Ozone by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

 

[atoll]

im hoping the increased o2 will help stabilize pH better and I wont have to use a co2 scrubber again(i dont have a pH controller so i dont want to risk it)

Oxydators have no direct effect on CO2

 

[DavidinGA]

That's a better way to think of it than an O2 addition scheme only.

Oxidizers have loads of different chemistry effects. not all are beneficial.

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 1: Chemistry and Biochemistry by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 2: Equipment and Safety by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 3: Changes in a Reef Aquarium upon Initiating Ozone by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

I'm thinking of using the Oxydator simply as a water clarifier instead of ozone (again I only care about water clarity benefits), what are your thoughts on its merits for this purpose? Thx

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I'm thinking of using the Oxydator simply as a water clarifier instead of ozone (again I only care about water clarity benefits), what are your thoughts on its merits for this purpose? Thx

I do not know how effective peroxide is at reducing yellowing, but I expect it has some effect. The fact that is has effects like that puts the lie to the claim that the only thing leaving it is O2.

 

[atoll]

I do not know how effective peroxide is at reducing yellowing, but I expect it has some effect. The fact that is has effects like that puts the lie to the claim that the only thing leaving it is O2.

Randy, the company call.it super oxygen, not sure exactly what they mean by that as I have never heard if it. However, as much of the peroxide is broken down before it leaves the Oxydator with the remaining entering the surrounding water, then that is where the similarities with ozone comes from both being bleaches. Much depends on the % of peroxide used and the number of catalyst used as to the affect achieved. There is more of an explanation on the sochting website.

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