Sps tissue dissolving overnight!

[takoarm8]

-3.5 month old tank.
-Parameters have been stable for 2 months.
-Had a Dino outbreak when parameters dropped one day.
-within hours of getting new health corals that the polyps were extending within 30 mins of Puting in tank .
-overnight had 3 large frags. Snozzberry, tsa fuzz acro and giant peach table acro completely disentigrated.

almost staghorns, montis, and Oregon torts which have been in the system for 5 weeks to 3 weeks seem to be doing ok. 1 aquamarine stag that is clustered next to two others I mounted 3 weeks ago at the same time is now showing some tissue loss.

40 gallon cube
Gen 5 xr 30 12 hour photo period on the same settings top shelf corals uses (where I got most of my frags from.


Alk- 9.8. 30 day average 9.6
Salinity 35, 1.026. 30 day average 34, 1.025
Calcium 480. 30 day average 470
Ph 8.1. 30 day average 8.3 day 7.7 night
Nitrates 12 ppm. 30 day average 14ppm
Phosphates .12 30 day average .10
Temp 77.8. 30 day average 77.8



I test all parameters daily except calcium which has been done weekly.

I added a UV sterilizer last week to help with the Dino’s and it has worked pretty well and today is the first day the Dino’s have seriously subsided. I also added pods from algae barn 48 hours ago.

I’m super flow is 2 MP10’s staggered catty corner set on reef quest at 70%

if my water parameters are this stable I don’t understand why the corals would just nose dive so fast.

 

[takoarm8]

Torches are very happy

 

[vetteguy53081]

It tissue loss due to stress. What stress:
Sudden temperature increase
Sudden change in water flow
Alkalinity spike
Elevated salinity
Low calcium

Assure temperature, salinity, alk, CA and pH are all within safe range. You may have to cut off dead areas if this continues

Can you post pics under white lighting ?

 

[takoarm8]

 

[takoarm8]

When I do a 5 gallon water change the temp may drop 3 degrees for 40 minutes would that do it?

 

[TnFishwater98]

Seems like a young tank and it doesn’t have the ability to provide what those corals need to survive. Are you using real LR or DR?

 

[takoarm8]

Was Marco rock with live sand.

water parameters have been almost perfect though. I have been feeding with oyster feast and reef roids since the LPS were added after 30 days. One of the montis has been in there over a month and a half with no issues. Oregon torts, candlelight stag, purple styli, green slimer, and red Cadillac, and Bali blue stag for 3 weeks and look amazing

 

[vetteguy53081]

When I do a 5 gallon water change the temp may drop 3 degrees for 40 minutes would that do it?

Can shock certain coral. always warmer- never colder. Temp affects tissue, salinity and even PH. Parameter drop is not a cause for dino but when you get dino , it has already consumed the no3 and po4 why you see zero readings.

 

[Falc!]

3.5 month old tank....some just want/need maturity

 

[takoarm8]

Can shock certain coral. always warmer- never colder. Temp affects tissue, salinity and even PH. Parameter drop is not a cause for dino but when you get dino , it has already consumed the no3 and po4 why you see zero readings.

Ok I’ll start with that. Dang it something so simple. Can’t believe I overlooked that.

 

[vetteguy53081]

3.5 month old tank....some just want/need maturity

Not necessarily. I moived livestock to a larger tank 6 weeks ago and added Sps 2 weeks ago and all showing polyp extension and growth. Stable parameters in this case is a must as is proper lighting which is very important. They cant be blasted with light and coral.
One cannot raise SPS while trying to get away with the bare minimums. Only high risk will be alk swing in a newer tank but its doable.

 

[Falc!]

Not necessarily. I moived livestock to a larger tank 6 weeks ago and added Sps 2 weeks ago and all showing polyp extension and growth. Stable parameters in this case is a must as is proper lighting which is very important. They cant be blasted with light and coral.
One cannot raise SPS while trying to get away with the bare minimums. Only high risk will be alk swing in a newer tank but its doable.

A tank transfer is VERY different than a new tank....

 

[takoarm8]

My par readings are all in the range recommended by the places I got my corals. While it’s not a great illustration lol…

 

[vetteguy53081]

A tank transfer is VERY different than a new tank....

I will clarify, I added 28 colonies PLUS SPS in the last couple of weeks.
This was a bare tank when I plumbed and cycled it. What I transferred initially was very little.

week 1-3:

Week 4- present:

 

[Falc!]

Good video to watch

 

[Falc!]

I will clarify, I added 28 colonies PLUS SPS in the last couple of weeks.
This was a bare tank when I plumbed and cycled it. What I transferred initially was very little.

week 1-3:

Week 4- present:

Um ok good for u bud

 

[vetteguy53081]

My par readings are all in the range recommended by the places I got my corals. While it’s not a great illustration lol…

There are a number of other reasons other than lighting. Tank immaturity is Not ruled out, but maricultured coral while cheaper will not hold up well, parameters not stable, getting bad advice from LFS-articles-videos- , trace elements used up quickly, low CA, high temperature , elevated salinity and the list goes on.
One problem with videos is you watch a person with a 300 gal giving you advise for dosing, placement, flow, etc and you have a 55 gallon , it does not help you however a tank similar in size like yours as its not as easy raising SPS in a 55 g tank and watch tips from a 500g tank.
Been doing this nearly 40 years and I remember relying on success from others to watch coral die, chasing numbers and getting frustrated

 

[takoarm8]

There are a number of other reasons other than lighting. Tank immaturity is Not ruled out, but maricultured coral while cheaper will not hold up well, parameters not stable, getting bad advice from LFS-articles-videos- , trace elements used up quickly, low CA, high temperature , elevated salinity and the list goes on.
One problem with videos is you watch a person with a 300 gal giving you advise for dosing, placement, flow, etc and you have a 55 gallon , it does not help you however a tank similar in size like yours as its not as easy raising SPS in a 55 g tank and watch tips from a 500g tank.
Been doing this nearly 40 years and I remember relying on success from others to watch coral die, chasing numbers and getting frustrated

-My salinity stays between 34-35 always.
-Calcium always reads consistent between 470-480
-nutrient levels have bounced around but nothing crazy since tank had cycled.
-maybe it’s because all of my corals have shipped from east coast to west coast?
-I’m gonna chill and not add any more corals and see what this batch does.
-going to make sure my water changes are more temperate
-I definitely wish I had a sump instead of an AIO Nano.
-I have a 270gallon 72x36x24 on order that I’m expecting to start this summer (waiting for it to be built) after wrangling this 40 gallon tank that’s gonna seem like a walk in the park lol

 

[vetteguy53081]

-My salinity stays between 34-35 always.
-Calcium always reads consistent between 470-480
-nutrient levels have bounced around but nothing crazy since tank had cycled.
-maybe it’s because all of my corals have shipped from east coast to west coast?
-I’m gonna chill and not add any more corals and see what this batch does.
-going to make sure my water changes are more temperate
-I definitely wish I had a sump instead of an AIO Nano.
-I have a 270gallon 72x36x24 on order that I’m expecting to start this summer (waiting for it to be built) after wrangling this 40 gallon tank that’s gonna seem like a walk in the park lol

Good plan and will be a difference maker

 

[takoarm8]